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A badge don’t make it right…
Durable Faith ^ | 12/11/2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/15/2012 7:02:52 AM PST by IbJensen

We have been conditioned to submit to anyone wearing a badge by our society, schools, and often even our churches. The result of unquestioned submission to authorities often produces the opposite result to the ideals of the civil society and equally applied law and order that we are seeking.

Consider the badges below:

1.Why is it ok for the DHS and FEMA to treat Americans like terrorists, but it’s not OK for the KGB to send Russian “dissidents” to Siberia? 2.Why is it OK for the UN and the CIA to be involved in the overthrow of sovereign nations but nullification and secession is always and everywhere a seditious and treasonous act? 3.What advice would you have given the super-majority of Russians that were Christians at the time the Bolsheviks came to power? 4.What advice would you have given the super-majority of Germans that were Christians as the Nazi’s came to power?

Other questions for your consideration

Are American badges intrinsically more pure and worthy of trust and submission than the badges of dictatorial rulers in countries we consider totalitarian regimes?

Did the founders of our nation believe that unlimited submission to authorities was the duty of citizens?

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. Thomas Jefferson

Is the U.S. government comprised of a structure and body of law embodied in the Constitution and bill of rights or is it whoever happens to hold high office under the flag?

“ In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” Thomas Jefferson

If we are rightly submitted to the governing authorities, what do we do if a usurper rises to a position of power and grants himself more power than the constitution permits? What if someone usurps the usurpers position? Are we now to submit to the usurper that usurped power from the other usurper? Where does it end?

the American political system, first of all, is a system of limited, delegated powers, entrusted to political officers and representatives and leaders for certain well-defined public purposes. Only through the recognition of this theory of popular sovereignty, and only through this explicit delegation of powers, the founders of the American Republic believed, could be the American nation keep clear of tyranny or anarchy. Russel Kirk

Did Jesus submit to or openly oppose the Jewish authorities which were the political and religious ruling class of Jerusalem in Jesus’ time?

Matt 12: Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?” 11 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”13 Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. 14 But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.

Did Jesus readily answer the questions of Pilate (the roman political authority) or did he point out that there was a higher authority that governed his behavior?

John 19: 10 “Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?” 11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.

The reality is that God’s moral law stands on its own and people of conscience retain their conscience and do not delegate it to those with badges. God has instituted rulers among men to punish evil, not to punish good. Appeal to authority via office holding is merely another form of the “might makes right argument”.

There is no such thing as a right to do wrong. A badge certainly does not make wrong right.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: badgesforboobs; evilreigime; govtabuse; policestate; tyranny
The Homeland 'Security' thugs have been given badges which mean absolutely nothing. They're pinned on to enhance their feelings of self-worth and was a 'brain' child of the brainless butch Incompetano.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 7:02:58 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

When the police do not obey the rule of law, they inspire contempt for the law.

2 posted on 12/15/2012 7:13:20 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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This is called “conditioning” People are led to believe that just because someone wears a badge they have authority to arrest.

Total B.S.

3 posted on 12/15/2012 7:15:21 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Example: Police officers roughing up and arresting folks who video record them.

The same logic applies to the officer, if you have nothing to hide, then why not allow someone to video a traffic stop or a bust out in the public?

Local law enforcement along with DHS grants have begun to transform into paramilitary organizations. Hyper-vigilant, hyper-paranoid, every traffic stop puts citizens in danger of being shot if they make a wrong reaching for their registration.

New taser technology has transformed from nonlethal takedown tool to behavior control weapons against citizens. More and more we are seeing ever emboldened street cops abusing folks during simple traffic stops.

Now the use of surveillance drones with teargas/shotgun technology incorporated within. Webs of cameras everywhere, military grade rifles, kevlar, vehicles.

Here in Texas, they've begun the biometric database using drivers lic. renewal as the means to collect finger prints and digital scans of folks faces for recognition capabilities. I thought this was all Alex Jones poppy-cock...check it out for yourselves!

Gives me a weird feeling that we've entered into the show 1984 or some other Orwellian scenario.

America has so many enemies that surround us, yet we've somehow become the suspects....creepy.

4 posted on 12/15/2012 7:46:35 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: IbJensen
The Homeland 'Security' thugs have been given badges which mean absolutely nothing.

You are correct the best example is TSA. The are not law enforcement officers, have no arrest authority, can't serve warrants etc. Several DHS components such as Customs, ICE and Border Patrol are real LEOs and have been around in some cases for over a hundred years just under different departments.

Back to the badges, prior to my retirement from DHS 2 years ago I spent a lot of time in the Happy Kingdom called DC. I was horrified to find out that the department was issuing badges to all sorts of mid and upper level managers who had no law enforcement experience. Budget people, HR, supply etc. Needless to say the real LEOs were morfifyed that they were passing them out like candy.

To us it was like giving a combat infantry badge to the civilian who fills the vending machine on base. After expressing our concerns and outlining the possible ramifications of untrained bureaucrats running around with federal law enforcement badges we were expressly told to STFU.

5 posted on 12/15/2012 9:06:30 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: servantboy777

Whoa there, citizen. You sound like some kind of troublemaking malcontent.

6 posted on 12/15/2012 10:25:41 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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In a cost saving move, Florida's Environmental Protection law enforcement was rolled into the Dept of Fish and Wildlife. It still means 800 armed poleizi to enforce crimes against the environment, like filling in a depression that fills with a heavy rain.

7 posted on 12/15/2012 10:27:38 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Just a lil worried about that liberty thing.

8 posted on 12/15/2012 5:00:39 PM PST by servantboy777
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