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The Solution to our Nation’s ‘Gun Problem’
Political Outcast ^ | December 15, 2012 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 12/17/2012 6:44:35 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

The Democrats believe that their best ‘weapon’ against the 2nd Amendment will be new and very high taxes at the Fed, State, and local level on firearms and firearm ammunition.

Chicago’s Cook County drops bullet tax, keeps gun levy
By Mary Wisniewski | Reuters – Wed, Oct 31, 2012

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The senior executive of the county that includes Chicago dropped a proposed tax on bullets on Wednesday but kept a plan to tax firearms to help defray healthcare expenses associated with the high rate of gun.

“It is very important to us to tax guns because we know that guns are the sources of the incredible violence we have in our neighborhoods,”

Under the plan, the county would impose a $25 tax on the purchase of firearms.

If approved by the board, the nation’s third most populous county with nearly 5.2 million residents could be the first major U.S. metropolitan area to impose a tax as a form of gun control, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

http://news.yahoo.com

“The notion of taxing ammunition may be traced to comedian Chris Rock, who once quipped, “If a bullet costs $5,000, there’d be no more innocent bystanders.” Before that, the legendary New York Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan suggested a 10,000 percent tax on the most destructive bullets. Make them too expensive, he theorized, and they would disappear.”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-14/news/ct-oped-1014-chapman-20121013_1_gun-owners-gun-control-destructive-bullets

If Guns Do Not Kill, Tax the Bullets
By JIM DWYER

Published: August 9, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/nyregion/taxing-bullets-as-de-facto-gun-control.html?_r=0

The Economist - 1994

“The idea of a license for gun owners has been floated by Mr Clinton and by Janet Reno, the attorney-general; it is argued most strongly by Charles Schumer, a Democratic congressman from Brooklyn. Under Mr Schumer’s bill, which is now before Congress, every owner would have a national handgun card, issued after a thorough background check, and all gun transfers would be registered with the ATF.”


21 posted on 12/17/2012 7:35:13 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Jeff Head

Agree. In fact, at church yesterday, my wife and I routinely sit by two middle aged ladies who are elementary school teachers. Naturally, our conversation quickly went to the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre. Out of the blue and with no provocation, one lady said “I don’t care what anybody says teachers should be able to arm themselves while at school if they want to.” Then, the other school teacher chimed in and supported what the first had said. Caught me totally by surprise for sure. Bw, both said they intend to get their concealed carry licenses.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 7:39:07 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: IbJensen
You can't get rid of all guns. It's not possible.
Deranged and evil people do exist, guns exist. Black markets exist. We must live with it.
The best antidote to a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
Many good men with guns is even better.
Therefore, the best way to stem gun violence is more good men and women with guns.
Gun free zones makes no sense, If I'm trusted to carry HERE, why am I not trusted to carry THERE?
Why do libs believe I will suddenly turn into a murderous maniac when I enter certain buildings?
Legal CCW holders have the lowest crime rates across all demographics. We are not the problem.

23 posted on 12/17/2012 7:54:52 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: IbJensen
We should all wear T-shirts with this on the front.

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24 posted on 12/17/2012 7:55:11 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: IbJensen

What part of “Shall Not Infringe” do you not understand? Why should anyone have to get permission to exercise a God given right? You are falling into the liberal mind set, government gets to control. What if you had to get a license to post comments on the internet or to send a letter to your newspaper, Congressman, Senator or other government official, would that be ok with you? It is all an infringement on our rights.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 8:11:58 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: IbJensen

The guy who executed the children also executed himself.

Life meant absolutely nothing to him. Your threats of execution are meaningless.

The solution to the problem is to fortify schools.

If there is something that is precious to you, then defend it.

If you don’t defend it, then it obviously is not that precios to you.

This society is falling to pieces, and I am not about to disarm. Not for any reason at all.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 8:15:00 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ratman83

Who in the hell are you addressing this to?

I’m a life NRA member and no damned liberal!


27 posted on 12/17/2012 8:23:19 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen
I am addressing it to you. Show me the section of the Constitution that says the I have to get permission from the government to exercise my rights. From your first post Any former military member with a honorable discharge, that passes a background check and gets special training should be allowed to carry ANYWHERE in all 50 states.

First why should you allow the government to have the power to control you and your guns.

Second why set up special privileges for some special citizens be they former/present military, former/present law enforcement or anyone else. That is part of the liberal mindset and being a NRA member does not change it one iota.

Liberals believe that government has the power and that is what you are proposing.

28 posted on 12/17/2012 8:41:22 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

OK, OK, Ratman. I see what you’re referring to and agree with you. Sometimes my fingers move much quicker than my brain!

I am, indeed, with you on this point.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 8:44:18 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Ok, I have seen many of your other posts and I know you believe in the Constitution. Unfortunately I find that too many do not get it and want to have the government the control, even here on FR, sad but true.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 8:51:50 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: IbJensen
I am sure the Sandy Hook School was a "gun free" zone, but obviously criminals, terrorists and the mentally unbalanced don't bother to heed those signs. Besides if an armed intruder violates these "gun free" zones what are the consequences? If the intruder is seen squads of armed police will respond and use deadly force if needed to take down armed intruder. However, until the police can arrive and take action those who heeded the "gun free" zone are like sheep to the slaughter and are at the mercy of the armed intruder. They can do nothing but cower in corners and pray the intruder is taken out before they are shot or killed.

The liberal naivete is that criminals, terrorists and the insane will not be able to get guns in a gun free world hence the problem is solved. Countries like the UK and Australia that have virtually banned all guns are seeing an increase in gun crime. Somehow criminals are managing to get guns in their gun free world and now it is the law abiding and now unarmed citizen that is a easy target. If guns are the problem why aren't there shooting rampages at gun shows and NRA conventions?

31 posted on 12/17/2012 9:08:02 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Mr. K
One more chicken chase around the barnyard.

When you say criminal you also think of many other names for that individual.

To me the most common one is “Outlaw”. To me this means someone who has decided to live outside the laws that bind normal men and women in a civilized society.

If you agree with that definition of “outlaw” aka criminal; what makes anyone think that they are going to obey a new law dealing with guns?

32 posted on 12/17/2012 9:23:42 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Nip

geez, you dont read much more than the first line, do you


33 posted on 12/17/2012 3:40:27 PM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: IbJensen

Now that’s a damn good idea imo.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 3:42:18 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: EdReform

Bump and bookmark


35 posted on 12/17/2012 4:24:47 PM PST by Magnum44 (FRiends dont let FRiends zot FRiends)
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To: snoringbear
Exactly. They know...and those teachers would mostly be like angy hens protecting their brood if they had the means to do so.

My Critical Analaysis of Mass Murder and Gun Control

It's past time to admit the simple truth. Having armed, law-abiding citizens all around us will keep us all safer than about anything else we can do...and it is proven in the statistics and what has happened in the past at such incidents when they were there.

36 posted on 12/23/2012 5:43:14 PM PST by Jeff Head
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