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Clear Channel to take WDTW AM 1310 Detroit dark on December 31 (prog talker)
Michiguide ^ | 12/17/12 | Mike Austerman

Posted on 12/17/2012 7:01:24 AM PST by raccoonradio

On the heels of the announcement that Clear Channel will be donating Progressive Talk WDTW AM 1310 Detroit to MMTC (The Minority Media and Telecommunications Council) comes the news that the station will end operations and go silent at midnight on December 31st. WDTW's six tower array along I-94 east of Telegraph in Taylor will be dismantled after the station signs off.

Current morning show host Tony Trupiano broke the news at the end of his 6 - 10 a.m. program this morning. The decision to shutdown the station will cost Trupiano his gig after about 18 months with his last show taking place next Friday, December 21st. A clearly emotional Trupiano explained to listeners that he had been given two different explanations for the shutdown of the station, one official and one unofficial - and that he tended to believe the unofficial version. He told listeners he would be posting further information for listeners on his Facebook page.

Outside of the live/local morning drive show, WDTW primarily airs syndicated programming that includes shows from Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, Phil Hendrie, and Alan Colmes.

In the 1960s and early 1970s, AM 1310 was the home of legendary Top 40 station WKNR, known as Keener 13. It had been the longtime sister station to WNIC-FM 100.3 and was at one time the flagship station for Detroit Tigers baseball.

The station first began operations on December 29th, 1946 on AM 1540 as WKMH and moved to AM 1310 in 1948. The original owners were Fred Knorr, Bill McCoy, and Harvey Hansen ( thus the original "KMH" call sign). Knorr later bought out his partners and became the station's sole owner. After ownership passed from the Knorr family in 1972, ownership of the station (along with sister station WNIC) shifted among several different companies, ultimately becoming part of Clear Channel in 2000.

After the station's days as Keener 13, it went through a number of different formats including periods simulcasting WNIC-FM. Most notable of the station's formats over the last 40 years prior to the current Progressive Talk offering were perhaps the attempts at Full Service and a combination of Full Service and Classical as WYUR ('Your Radio'), Children's programming as WDOZ 'Radio AAHS', Sports as WXDX 'The X', and Classic Soul/Motown Gold as WMTG.

It's unclear how long the station will be silent pending the donation to MMTC which will attempt to find a minority owner that would likely launch its own programming.

TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: clearchannel; detroit; mmtc; progressiveradio; talkradio; wdtw; wknr
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Another progressive talker gone. This time in Detroit where Clear Channel (Bain! Romney!) is donating it to "The Minority Media and Telecommunications Council". I don't know if it will go to Hispanic-oriented, black-oriented etc. but the prog talk hosts like Trupiano (local), Schulz, Steph Miller, Hartmann etc. lose another station. To..."diversity" in broadcasting.
1 posted on 12/17/2012 7:01:30 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Keener 13 was a Detroit legend. When I lived there the station was playing Motown Gold, which is a vast improvement over its current lineup.

This Minority Media Foundation is going to have one helluva time getting this station back up without towers. That’s a very expensive proposition. My bet is this station never returns to the air.

AM radio stations are facing the same fate as drive-in movie theaters. The real estate that their towers sit on has become more valuable than what they could ever make selling ad time to a dwindling audience.

2 posted on 12/17/2012 7:08:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: raccoonradio; cripplecreek

The demise of Keener 13 (Tiger’s Flagship).

Probably a good thing tho since it was currently a “LibTalk” station (so they were going broke!).

3 posted on 12/17/2012 7:10:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yes.. note the following comment from their facebook
posted back in November, though! The first sentence
is laughable!

>>So why is Clear Channel turning all its financially successful progressive/liberal talk radio stations and turning them into barely successful Fox Sports clones? Did you not think that folk would miss KPOJ 620AM in Portland or KTLK 1150 AM in Los Angeles? Is Willard Romney really that big of a whinny sore loser that he would chose to lose money just to hurt folk would can realize that he would be bad for America’s economy? With business skills like this no wonder he lost by over 100 Electoral votes.

(I don’t think KTLK is flipping, but KFNQ formerly KPTK Seattle prob will, to CBS sports—station owned by CBS)

As I pointed out sports is big money and they’d rather sell (ads for) Bud to younger adults, not ads for Utne Reader
to older ones.

4 posted on 12/17/2012 7:13:27 AM PST by raccoonradio
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I guess I’m wondering how anyone would cost effectively rebuild a 6 tower array even with the core license being donated.

Again, as in Columbus, OH, where lib talk just dies, this is another signal hampered station that would struggle with just about any format.

I always go back to the Boston example of how well conservative talk does on a signal hampered station. Clear Channel’s 1200 AM frequency was a bust with Rush as it’s anchor. Being on AM is tough these days. Not being a blow torch signal is even tougher.

5 posted on 12/17/2012 7:15:41 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: raccoonradio

Not sure I see the problem.

Have Jessie shakedown Google for servers and bandwith, Apple Itunes for music, have the lib talkers donate their shows to this important cause and let Obama broadcast it to the installed Obamaphone base on taxpayer money.

That’s new American Capitalism isn’t it?

I need to get hired by a lib think tank. I’d be a millionaire overnight.

6 posted on 12/17/2012 7:17:02 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: joesbucks

These signal hampered stations used to do rather well with Fringe Kook Talk (Art Bell, Chuck Harder, Alex Jones)

7 posted on 12/17/2012 7:18:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: joesbucks

1200 did OK by day in many areas but I think many talk fans just spurn AM—though WRKO does okay; and the FM talker 96.9 may soon be changing format but it could be lack of good talent there (since Severin left etc.) Many prog talk fans
prefer NPR, on powerful FM stations.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 7:19:56 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yes...and maybe some prog talk fans can hear those shows online or on their smart phones, or NPR.

Prog talk still isn't on a fulltime Boston station at this point but maybe our future secretary of state could change that--after all he got many millions of dollars via his second wife's first husband's trust fund (pass the ketchup).

Teresa Heinz Ketchup, er Kerry, with her first hubby

9 posted on 12/17/2012 7:23:49 AM PST by raccoonradio
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(The Minority Media and Telecommunications Council)”

...”minority” anything makes me ill. I stop reading when I see sh&& like this. Besides, the good news was in the headline!

10 posted on 12/17/2012 7:27:53 AM PST by albie
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JohnDavis wrote on a radio messageboard:
>>>>Political talk is going the way of the dinosaur, regardless of the left-right spectrum. How much money does Salem shovel into getting a 0.6 with its hosts? How long can they afford to do that?
Sports makes money. That’s why everyone is getting on that train. Once they’ve oversaturated the market with too many third rate network shows, they’ll find something else. But let’s face it, the future of AM is brokered ethnic or turning in the license and selling the tower site. The real estate is worth more than most AM stations. As for progressive talk, the more interesting shows aren’t on the radio, they’re podcasts. Some are even worth paying for.

My response:
Agreed. Selling the tower site—it’s like the old days when the drive in theatres went away and the land was sold to developers to put up shopping malls. (And I don’t know if
prog talk shows are really interested but some like them—via podcast. I was at work and saw a woman listening to something on her smartphone—the screen read “Alex Jones

Still some conservative talk can work...but libtalk is fast shrinking...blame Bain and Romney!

11 posted on 12/17/2012 7:28:49 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s not just the towers (antenna array). The transmitter goes too.

To put up another transmitter isn’t a huge deal. To replace that array of towers... that’s a huge deal. AM radio stations don’t do squat without at least a large (200’+) tower for an antenna.

12 posted on 12/17/2012 7:30:33 AM PST by NVDave
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How much money does Salem shovel into getting a 0.6 with its hosts? How long can they afford to do that?

They are still actively out there buying stations. So they must feel they can continue for some time.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 7:31:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NVDave

Yep. Multi-tower directional arrays, acres of copper grounding wire. None of it comes cheap. A station up in Johnstown, PA just went dark because they had a 9 or 10 tower directional array. One of the towers crapped out and the owners could not justify the cost of replacing it.

14 posted on 12/17/2012 7:33:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: raccoonradio

It is too bad that clear Channel is shutting down WDTW AM 1310. Keeping that station on the air could be a real public service. These people need somewhere to vent. If they keep all that hate bottled up in side of them they could become very dangerous. After all a vessel building up steam without a vent will eventually blow up. :>)

15 posted on 12/17/2012 7:36:33 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo

They’ll have plenty of places to vent including other spots on radio (Democracy Now, NPR, college radio perhaps—maybe even calling in to conservative shows, which is always a hoot)...podcasts...the Net, TV, movies...Just wait for the latest Chris Rock shocker, the latest Chris Matthews
tingle up his leg, etc.

16 posted on 12/17/2012 7:44:11 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

By all measures, 1200 failed. And that’s why CC took Rush off a CC owned station and allowed the show to migrate back to a blow torch signal. The signal impaired 1200 frequency damaged their marque product. It really took the prog talk can’t make it in the ratings when in fact 1200 was still an overall dog in the market and did little better with Rush et al than it did with prog talk.

17 posted on 12/17/2012 7:44:58 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: raccoonradio

Gee, local small business doesn’t buy ad time during lib talkers who are generally trashing the successful entrepreneur. Who would have guessed?

18 posted on 12/17/2012 7:45:58 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Chuck Harder hasn’t been remotely a factor since before Y2K and is totally gone now. I can’t think of but a handful of major stations where he was heard. Most were small town outlets. Bell was no longer a factor after his first retirement and by that time he was being cleared on blow torch outlets. Other than knowing of Alex Jones, I’m unfamiliar with any affiliates.

19 posted on 12/17/2012 7:51:40 AM PST by joesbucks
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Where I was I got it fine but yes the signal may not have been the best! They did hire two local hosts, Katz and Severin.
Tried to promote it.
Some like radio expert Mark Schynder figured it was a mistake to take Rush off RKO—even if Boston was one of his weakest markets—and when he came back people agreed it was for the best. RKO GLADLY took him back. Agreed with what you say.

20 posted on 12/17/2012 8:07:20 AM PST by raccoonradio
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