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Chuck Hagel's appointment to defense shows the game has changed (Jewish Community aghast at choice)
American Thinker ^ | 12/17/2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 12/17/2012 7:18:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Caroline Glick is not given to exaggeration and hyperbole. That's why this article she recently penned is so striking. She is sounding the alarm about the Obama administration taking off its anti-Israel mask in order to fundamentally transform the relationship with the Jewish state:

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Many in the American Jewish community are aghast to discover that President Obama is planning to appoint former Senator Chuck Hagel to serve as Defense Secretary. If you want the skinny on how Hagel has come to be known as one of the few ferociously anti-Israel senators in the past generation, Carl from Jerusalem at Israel Matzav provides it.

Meantime, all I can say is I don't understand how anyone can possibly be surprised. Shortly after word came out that Hagel is the frontrunner for the nomination, I read a quaint little blog post written by a conservative leaning commentator voicing her belief that Obama wouldn't want to risk his relations with Israel's supporters by appointing Hagel. But as Powerline pointed out today, this is the entire point of the nomination. Obama isn't stupid. He picks fights he thinks he can win. He hasn't always been right about those fights. He picked fights with Netanyahu thinking he could win, and he lost some of those.

But he is right to think he can win the Hagel fight. The Republican Senators aren't going to get into a fight with Obama about his DOD appointee, especially given that it's one of their fellow senators, even though many of them hate him. The Democrats are certainly not going to oppose him.

Obama wants to hurt Israel. He does not like Israel. He is appointing anti-Israel advisors and cabinet members not despite their anti-Israel positions, but because of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carolineglick; chuckhagel; defense; glick; hagel; hagelantiisrael; hageliandialectic; israel; waronterror

1 posted on 12/17/2012 7:18:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Many in the American Jewish community are aghast to...”

Elections have consequences.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 7:20:32 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“She is sounding the alarm about the Obama administration taking off its anti-Israel mask in order to fundamentally transform the relationship with the Jewish state:”

It’s ok Caroline. The showers are for your cleanliness. We wouldn’t want an outbreak of lice in our wonderful camp. And don’t pay attention to the cannisters of Zyclon B. We use that to kill the rats.


3 posted on 12/17/2012 7:22:19 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: duckman

If American Jews do not know by now that Obama is anti-Semite they must have their heads up their azz.

Why would they be aghast after watching this load for the last 4 years.

A Jew voting for Obama is like a Catholic voting for Judas Escariot.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 7:23:43 AM PST by Venturer
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To: duckman

Bingo!

Yet how many Jews will automatically pull the democrap lever in the next election?

Way, way too many.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 7:24:08 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: SeekAndFind

Jewish Americans appear to have little regard for Israel as they continue to support Democrats.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 7:24:26 AM PST by sarasota
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To: SeekAndFind
You get the government you deserve.

RAPTURE READY?

7 posted on 12/17/2012 7:26:29 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Of course they’ll just point out that Hagel was a “Republican.”


8 posted on 12/17/2012 7:26:41 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: sarasota

African Americans appear to have little regard for themselves as they continue to support Democrats.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 7:26:41 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Venturer
A Jew voting for Obama is like a Catholic voting for Judas

Roughly half of Catholics voted for Obozo too (even after he used the health care law to declare war on us)


10 posted on 12/17/2012 7:27:10 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: duckman

I, for one, do not believe there is any angst at what Obama proposes for Israel.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: duckman
“Many in the American Jewish community are aghast to...”

Are they? The great majority of Jews voted for Obama knowing what they were doing. Their leftism was stronger than any loyalty to Israel.

12 posted on 12/17/2012 7:29:08 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Venturer

Most liberal American Jews hate Israel and the Jews. Look at Soros! Look at all the Hollywood Jews that contribute to Obama. Do you really think they didn’t know? Of course they knew this is exactly what they wanted.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 7:31:12 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Buckeye McFrog

RE: Roughly half of Catholics voted for Obozo too (even after he used the health care law to declare war on us)

The latest figure I read was 52 to 48 FOR Obama among Catholics.

Heck, that’s MORE than Obama’s 51-49 final victory over Romney.

Catholics HELPED Obama BY A LOT. That’s all I can say based on observations.


14 posted on 12/17/2012 7:36:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Venturer
A Jew voting for Obama is like a Catholic voting for Judas Escariot.

BUT, Catholics elected Obama... and the majority of them love him!

“As Catholics who support the social justice achievements of this President, we are disappointed in his lack of action in working to prevent these heinous acts of violence. We call on President Obama to find the courage to lead our nation and help bring a true and lasting end to gun violence." ...

...Catholics United, with its allies at Faithful America, today delivered a petition with more than 25,000 signatures calling on the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to refocus their time and energy toward issues of social and economic justice rather than far-right partisan issues.

Exit polling data from the election showed that a majority of Catholics voted to reelect President Obama. Lay Catholics joined in support of the marriage equality referendums that passed in four states while the bishops’ conference was a strong vocal and heavy financial backer against the measures supporting marriage equality. The election results demonstrate the culture war narrative the bishops were pushing failed to convince mainstream Catholics to vote against their values.


Disclaimer: I seriously doubt we have these RC's on this board!!!

15 posted on 12/17/2012 7:37:39 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: SeekAndFind
It is written:

Genesis 12:3

"I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you..."

That's a fact.

16 posted on 12/17/2012 7:42:20 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: WVKayaker

Catholics did not elect Obama. Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, and single women had higher percentages for Obama.
(I know Hispanic isn’t a race, and many Hispanics are “Catholic”)


17 posted on 12/17/2012 7:43:49 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
Our enemies are aligned against us. For several years they have been spoiling for a major confrontation. Israel is a key piece in our world order.

By weakening our military and our economy and now signaling that Israel is on it's own, we are setting in motion a cataclysm.

18 posted on 12/17/2012 7:45:54 AM PST by oldbrowser (Put Obama in check, now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Many in the American Jewish community are aghast.....”

Not to worry, they will fall in line just as they always do.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 7:46:16 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo

Seek-just like they did in Germany?


20 posted on 12/17/2012 7:48:38 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: duckman

Putz


21 posted on 12/17/2012 7:48:43 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: EEGator

I will expand that to Americans did not elect obama. Voter fraud did, and voter fraud is UnAmerican.

Just like Obama and his Iranian handler Valleri.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 7:51:58 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: dfwgator
“Of course they’ll just point out that Hagel was a “Republican.”

That's the biggest problem with the “party” system in Washington. We need to votes to maintain control, so we let guys like Hagel continue to call themselves, “Republicans.”

To tell the truth, I never had the slightest idea what the heck that guy was. Every so often he appeared to be a Republican, but most of the time he seemed boarderline nuts. Now the lamestream media will give zero credit for "including" a Republican in his cabinet.

23 posted on 12/17/2012 8:18:25 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: WVKayaker

Temper your bigotry.

Catholics United is NOT a Catholic group. It is a bunch of leftists who believe very little in Catholic doctrine. Don’t go using them as the voice of Catholics and the Catholic Church.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 8:21:41 AM PST by oldbill
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To: lonevoice

ping


25 posted on 12/17/2012 8:45:59 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: SeekAndFind

TFB. My fellow Jews re-elected sociopath and Jew-hating Obama. Let them now choke on it.


26 posted on 12/17/2012 8:55:10 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: oldbill; WVKayaker
It's not bigotry if it is the truth...bigotry would be a lie masquerading as truth to foster said bigotry.

It is a fact via exit polling...that a majority of Catholics voted for Obama in this election and in most elections since JFK they have done that...not all..I think 4..they voted GOP

maybe 1972, 1980 and 1984...could be another one...2004?...and the first three were before the Hispanic wave

...59% white Catholics voted Romney. ...only slightly below the white vote in general

so yes...Catholics...even white ones do not vote as conservative as Southern baptists or Pentecostals but the white ones do have their moments of clarity

it's always been that many Catholics here just don't want to hear it

I wish white Catholics voted like whites in Alabama...that would fix America for now...and if they listened to Rome's advice on simple moral issues...they would

27 posted on 12/17/2012 9:06:15 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: WVKayaker

These are people who call themselves Catholic, while supporting abortions, they go to Communion every Sunday when they do not observe confession, they come on Christmas and easter.

They are Nancy Pelosi’s and Biden’s only Catholic in their own minds.

NO CATHOLIC could support OBAMA.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 9:20:09 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

The Mulism world will be happy with Hagel as Secretary of Defense

Hagel is pro-Muslim so pissed off at American Jews freepers should rejoice. We live in a zero sum economy and zero sum world so the anti-Israel Hagel means he will enable the Muslims


29 posted on 12/17/2012 9:21:09 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: Venturer; oldbill; EEGator; stfassisi
NO CATHOLIC could support OBAMA.

I am sure you speak for aLL Catholics.../sarc

I am already on record as believing that the Roman Catholic organization is the largest cult on this planet. Your posts help to further confirm my suspicions!

Thanks for your help!

PRESS RELEASE: Self-appointed ‘Catholic leader’ smears Catholics United; group responds
Posted February 18, 2012

Washington, DC – In a blog post written Thursday, February 16, William “Bill” Donohue, CEO of the Catholic League, stated falsehoods about Catholics United as a result of one mention of the organization at a Congressional hearing regarding women’s access to birth control.

The Catholic League is a self-styled “civil rights group” based in New York. In the post, Mr. Donohue claimed Catholics United is “a George Soros-funded anti-Catholic front group.” He went on to say Soros has “poured a ton of money” into the organization.

“Absolute nonsense,” said James Salt, executive director of Catholics United. “Our 40,000-member organization has never received a cent from Mr. Soros or any of his affiliated groups. I’m puzzled why Mr. Donohue continues to spread this falsehood. Furthermore, I find Mr. Donohue’s use of the smear term ‘anti-Catholic’ highly offensive and disgusting. As a fellow person of the Catholic faith, I expect Mr. Donohue to be above that.”

Salt said though his organization has never received money from Soros, he’d welcome contributions if they were made to further the mission of Catholic Social Teaching and in a spirit of good faith.

30 posted on 12/17/2012 9:51:01 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: wardaddy

forgot to ping you to my #30...


31 posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:28 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then why do most Jews vote Democrat? It makes no sense.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 9:54:07 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: SeekAndFind

Israeli Jews have the good sense not to vote for 0bama even if they could.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 9:58:46 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: WVKayaker

LMAO Great reply from a Catholic hater.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 10:23:45 AM PST by Venturer
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To: WVKayaker

I wonder what Mr. Salt’s idea od catholic Social Teaching would be. Probably not very catholic


35 posted on 12/17/2012 10:25:26 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
not a catholic people hater, just see their organization as a corruption of the true catholic (small c: universal) Christian church. I am not alone in describing it as the "whore of Babylon".

What God gave us through His Son's death and Resurrection, they try to take away by adding back requirements of adherence to their doctrines and edicts. Jesus paid the price once for all.

Romans 3: 19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

Righteousness Comes Through Faith

21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,i through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. -NIV

36 posted on 12/17/2012 10:33:24 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: WVKayaker

Very good, and you got all that so fast for a non heter.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 10:35:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: WVKayaker

Very good, and you got all that so fast for a non hater.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 10:35:54 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I wonder what Mr. Salt’s idea od catholic Social Teaching would be. Probably not very catholic

PRESS RELEASE: Catholics United Applauds Greenhouse Gas Health Standards
Posted March 27, 2012

New rule improves air quality, shows commitment to reversing life-threatening effects of climate change

WASHINGTON – Today the Environmental Protection Agency announced the Carbon Pollution Standard, commonly known as a “greenhouse gas rule,” a measure that will impose limits of the emission of carbon from coal-fired power plants. The new standard will protect the health of every American and will help ensure future generations are able to live in a cleaner, more sustainable environment. The rule is another step in addressing the increasing dangers of climate change.

Catholics United welcomes this ruling, as care for God’s creation is a central component of Catholic social teaching. Pope Benedict XVI, commonly known as “the Green Pope” as he has made the environment one of his top concerns, often speaks out in favor of protecting the earth and limiting the effects of global climate change.

39 posted on 12/17/2012 10:46:05 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: Venturer
Maybe you should take some time to learn typing/spelling...

You can call me whatever, but it doesn't affect my relationship with God. I do know the Scriptures and know how to find the quotes instead of having to do all that typing. Though I am not suffering like Paul, "Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day."!

maybe you should spend some time in there and you may find the ultimate truth! Jesus saves, not a manmade organization!

40 posted on 12/17/2012 10:52:40 AM PST by WVKayaker ("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ya know what,
Bibi had a chance to jerk the negros chains and failed to do so prior to the election
Them American Jews overwhelmingly again supported this worthless marxist punk who they knew hated Israel.
No longer my concern. If Jews don’t give a damn what happens to Israel neither do I./


41 posted on 12/17/2012 11:24:41 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: WVKayaker

The only thing I called you was a Catholic hater and since you consider it a cult, you admitted that yourself.

I wish you nothing but happiness in your search for Christ, and you are right I probably should spend some time learning to type better, but typing will not get me to heaven so why bother?

As for your advice on my faith I shall ignore it since you believe I belong to a cult.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 12:06:24 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 444Flyer
“....It is written:
Genesis 12:3

“I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you...”

That's a fact.
....”

Then Obamanation is our punishment!!

43 posted on 12/17/2012 1:09:07 PM PST by kimtom (USA on the Brink, Now Falling over the edge)
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To: WVKayaker; Venturer

Even if the did not receive money from Soros(which I think they did though an organization connect to Soros) this group called Catholic United is Latae Sententae(excommunicated themselves) because of their statements on abortion and gay marriage

Pro-Abortion “Catholics United” Runs Misleading Attack on Romney
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/19/pro-abortion-catholics-united-runs-misleading-attack-on-romney/

Catholics United urges ‘gay marriage’ surrender
By Kevin J. Jones
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/catholics-united-urges-gay-marriage-surrender/

Catholics United called for a halt financial support for “anti-marriage equality ballot initiatives” in Maine, Maryland, Minnesota and Washington, states where the issue is on the November ballot.

Catholics United Executive Director James Salt said advocacy against “civil same-sex marriage laws” has the effect of “pushing younger generations of Catholics out of the Church.”

This group called Catholics united is no different than Judas Iscariot


44 posted on 12/17/2012 4:21:22 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

I fail to see why they claim to be Catholic.

They are all self-excommunicated.


45 posted on 12/17/2012 5:48:35 PM PST by Venturer
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To: kimtom

Unfortunately, I believe so Kimtom.


46 posted on 12/17/2012 8:20:52 PM PST by 444Flyer
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