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New Imaging System Could Make America's Stealth Technology Obsolete
Business Insider ^
| Dec. 18, 2012, 10:33 AM
| Robert Johnson
Posted on 12/18/2012 9:39:41 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No doubt the Chinese have already stolen the technology.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:41:58 AM PST
by
MeganC
(Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good, since klinton and bathhouse barry gave all our technology to our enemies.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:42:29 AM PST
by
longfellow
(Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What say you, aviation experts and fighter pilots?
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:43:59 AM PST
by
A Navy Vet
(An Oath is Forever.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“This process can’t be jammed, confused, or eluded”
I’m sure that was said of radar, initially.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:44:29 AM PST
by
ryan71
(Water, food and ammo.)
To: ryan71
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:47:27 AM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sounds like radar with photons instead of RF waves.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:48:12 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
but instead a quantum image gleaned through a string of photons that boomerang out and back, telling operators everything they've seen At the level of description given, this is the same thing as radar.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:49:00 AM PST
by
FredZarguna
(If there's one thing he has a lot of, it's a lack of humility.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Link from the article:
Unjammable aircraft detection using quantum mechanics
**********************************EXCERPT****************************************
Researchers from the University of Rochester in New York have demonstrated an aircraft detection system that is unjammable.
By using polarized photons to detect and image objects, any attempt to modify the photons will alter its quantum properties. The system can then detect the altered quantum state of the photons.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:49:00 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
To: E. Pluribus Unum
RF waves are photons.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:51:37 AM PST
by
FredZarguna
(If there's one thing he has a lot of, it's a lack of humility.)
To: FredZarguna; E. Pluribus Unum; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; justa-hairyape; NormsRevenge
See #9,....still pretty sketchy detail.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:51:58 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
To: Jeff Chandler
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:54:00 AM PST
by
EEGator
To: MeganC
No need to steal it, with obama at the helm. His Technology Outsource to China Czar is working 24/7.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:54:26 AM PST
by
DPMD
To: FredZarguna
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:56:02 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
To: Jeff Chandler
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yeah, I saw your post.
In as much as there are only four quantum numbers that differentiate a particular photon -- and without more details -- this seems pretty easy to defeat. My guess is they want to be at the head of the line for research money when seuqestration begins, and this is a typical BI story: short on details and wrong on facts.
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posted on
12/18/2012 9:59:42 AM PST
by
FredZarguna
(If there's one thing he has a lot of, it's a lack of humility.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
can't be jammed, confused, or eluded and rather than get absorbed, reflected, or...???
Quantum entanglement is the only thing I can think of, since photons certainly CAN be absorbed, reflected and jammed. But entangled pairs would (conceivably, I'm no physicist) accurately report back regardless of what happened to their mates -- if you can tease the information out of them.
My question is WTH are they releasing this information and not locking those researchers up somewhere in the lab of their dreams?
To: E. Pluribus Unum
When they arent waves. Nope. Incorrect.
Photons are what they are, and they always are what they are.
Under certain conditions their state vector can collapse into experimentally measurable property (eigenstate of an observable) that can be described as "wavelike behavior." Under other conditions, the state vector collapses on measurement into eigenstates that imply particle like behavior.
But in either case, they're always photons.
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posted on
12/18/2012 10:05:28 AM PST
by
FredZarguna
(Wavefunction = loosely, and incorrectly, state vector.)
To: FredZarguna
Nope. Photons are particles given off by molecules that are stimulated particularly. Time for a Physics 101 thread!
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posted on
12/18/2012 10:09:24 AM PST
by
gr8eman
(Ron Swanson for President!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Based on my limited layman's science: Photons are quantum sized light particles with no mass that behave both as particles and waves. As light they travel in straight trajectories unless influenced by a massive gravitational field (the "boomerang" remark in the article particularly caught my eye). And like radar, if they hit a
reflective surface it seems to make sense they would bounce back at light speed and be detectable.
But I am not really sure why they could not be "absorbed" by a dark surface coating on whatever you're trying to protect from detection. No return ... no comparison of elements of the beam when it left, with what the same quantum nuggets look like when they get back.
This sounds like something that could work in a lab under very strictly controlled conditions but might be years away from functioning in the real world. In the meantime, if it screws up our stealth tech it screws up everybody else's as well.
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posted on
12/18/2012 10:15:19 AM PST
by
katana
(Just my opinions)
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