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To: absalom01
I haven't heard a single person talk about THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM here.. No fathers in the homes that dispense a form of discipline that only a MAN can bring. No father figures or MEN in the schools. No father figures or MEN in daycare. We have a near 100% female-dominated oversight of boys with few men in the picture. Discipline must be firm and it must start with boys at an EARLY age, or else it's counterproductive. I have a feeling that when Adam DID have a father, he was a father in name only and not engaged or proactive with discipline. I'm not saying females can't enforce rules or be disciplinary; They CAN. However, with boys you need a MAN whom is feared, yet revered and respected and it MUST start at a young age.

Boys today are fatherless and fear NOTHING. Fatherlessness and FEARLESSNESS is the problem.

3 posted on 12/18/2012 11:37:47 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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It’s mental health and then some…
It’s feminized boys
It’s boys raised by women with no regular man in their lives
It’s medicating boys who are fidgety in class
It’s not letting boys be boys
It’s school that has no daily phy. ed.
It’s a culture of Everybody gets a Trophy
It’s “gender neutral” bathrooms
It’s “gender neutral” easy bake ovens
It’s self-esteem bestowed and not earned.

It’s main-streaming mentally ill people into everyday life and denying any of them should be institutionalized

It’s a mother who doesn’t lock her guns up so they can’t be accessed

It’s a mother who would rather be out drinking than caring for her son

It’s a mother who ignores the deep-seated problem illustrated by a boy who deliberately burns himself with a lighter.

It’s a mental health care system that is the most under-funded element of almost every health insurance plan. Medicare has had its mental health care elements gutted (effective 1/1/13).

It’s a mental health care system that is “outcome based.” The outcome is every person must be freed to walk the street. It’s the same system that does not hold a provider (doctor, therapist, counselor) responsible if/when he/she releases the wrong person.

It’s a mental health care system that exhausts parents of mentally ill children because even the most severely mentally ill child is almost always set home from the hospital when the latest crisis passes. Parents are made to believe it is their burden to carry no matter how impossible for them.

Or, we can just ban guns (especially the ones that look scary that we’ve politically decided to call assault weapons) so we can feel good about it.

And, then we all get a trophy for “caring.”


9 posted on 12/18/2012 11:53:44 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

So glad to have grown up in the 50’s/60’s. Raised our kids in the 80’s/90’s. Now to help them navigate thru all the mess the libs have left and have my grandkids come out normal. What a challenge that it.


11 posted on 12/18/2012 12:10:42 PM PST by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I hear you, I;m sick of mentioning this but todays parenting is crap.
It is no coincidence that the elft attacked family values, and the traditional fmaily 40 years ago and then society went to crap.

The left promoted the woman not staying at home and raising kids.
The elft promoted divorce.
The left promoted all osrts of queer weird marriage.
The left promoted women do not need men.\

I could go on and on.
Bottom line society broken down when the left got their social engineering passed and furthered their agenda.

Most Parents today that;s if there are two do not think their lives of careers should be given up.
Get a nanny
get the dog walker
get a cleaner]
eat out often.

ow about sitting down with fmaily every night like we just have.
Talk to kids every day about what they learned and what is going on in their lives.
Get the kids to walk the dog, go with them if they like.
Cook and teach kids how to cook,
clean up after thus teaching kids to clean up after themselves.
Don;t put TV’s etc in their bedrooms, make them come in and decide what you;ll all watch.

Teach morals, discipline, respect, yes sir, no mam, please, thnak you., Hell I see parents today saying “give me that pack over there”
How about “excuse me could I have that pack please?”

How about telling the boy to get up when he falls playing instead of parents running up and asking is it broken, how about telling the kid to carry on playing instead of giving the kid a band aid and ice for a poor little boo boo which no one can see.

No one has mentioned the lack of parenting in th emedia because that is how they raise , so called raise their kids.

lets say those on FOX, they come home kicks her shoes off, grabs a wine and states how tired she is.
Kids have done homework, got a bath and are now told when parents come home to watch TV in their bedroom.

Put a father in the house, have that father raise his child with the mother.
Give discipline instead of telling kids they can report parents.
stop promoting divorce and look down on a failed marriage.

Women have been told to hell with men, get a career, don;t let him give discipline, many mothers want to be their kids friend for crying out loud.
Sick of seeing mamby pamby kids raised off mothers who can only keep telling their boy how great he is /
He sucks at that sport, s stop telling him he;s great, tell him to work to get better as he sucks

teachers telling kids that C’s are good, WTH, it;s crap .


22 posted on 12/18/2012 2:00:01 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Lanza had a father. Parents divorced in 2009. The guy was nuts and he got a hold of guns. Mental illness is the problem here and possibly very dangerous meds.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 2:38:08 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
I have a feeling that when Adam DID have a father, he was a father in name only and not engaged or proactive with discipline.

It's not just the father.

Not to disrepect the dead, but I am firmly convinced the mother was "off," in some way. I heard she served her son vegan meals -- terrible for an Aspie/ADHD, who needs protein. Also teaching shooting to a son who is obviously disturbed. What was she thinking? (She wanted to "connect.") She in fact seemed obsessed with guns. She might have been loving, or tried to be, but most likely was herself in lala land. Lethal combination: passive or absent father, eccentric mother. Both were in some kind of denial.

I don't think the killer's father or brother is publicly saying anything. They probably don't want to admit that the family had a lot of disturbances. Even regardless of the violence that erupted, Adam Lanza needed to be in an institution, given his extreme strangeness and withdrawal.

28 posted on 12/18/2012 5:15:03 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Do people still say, after Junior has misbehaved, “WAIT TILL YOUR FATHER GETS HOME, YOUNG MAN!!!!”


34 posted on 12/19/2012 5:47:11 AM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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