Posted on 12/18/2012 2:21:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
(WXYZ) - Governor Rick Snyder has vetoed gun legislation that would have allowed concealed weapons in churches, schools and daycares.
He vetoed Senate Bill 59 Tuesday after stating that he would give the legislation extra consideration following tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut.
The bill drew widespread criticism in the wake of the school massacre in Newtown where 26 people were killed - including 20 children. Under the proposed law, concealed weapons would have been allowed in schools and churches.
“This type of violence often leaves society with more questions than answers,” Snyder said. “The reasons for such appalling acts usually are numerous and complex. With that in mind, we must consider legislation like SB 59 in a holistic manner. While the bill’s goal is to help prevent needless violence, Michigan will be better served if we view it through a variety of lenses. A thoughtful review that examines issues such as school emergency policies, disenfranchised youth and mental health services may lead to more answers and better safeguards.”
Some in the GOP argued it was a law designed to protect students because the legislation banned open-carry in schools
Michigan's gun bill proposed allowing gun owners with extra training to carry a concealed weapon in a gun-free zone.
“While we must vigilantly protect the rights of law-abiding firearm owners, we also must ensure the right of designated public entities to exercise their best discretion in matters of safety and security,” Governor Snyder said. “These public venues need clear legal authority to ban firearms on their premises if they see fit to do so.”
While the governor rejected SB 59, he signed two other bills that streamline the process for handgun purchases.
Agree.
During the hunting season I would bet at least a quarter of the cars in the high school parking lot had guns locked in the trunks.
Only in my imagination at the moment, but if kooks like Scientology and the Westboro Baptists can get religious protection, then there’s no reason that gun lovers can’t give it a shot too.
I believe you. Have not lived Michigan personally but know plenty of people who have. They are almost all field and stream men (primarily deer hunters).
Sure, give him some heat over it to express your disappointment.
But, as I wrote in my original post, the governor has to be realistic about what is possible in this emotionally charged atmosphere. It is a tactical retreat, not a strategic defeat. After all, 20 1st graders (along with 6 teachers) were murdered just last Friday.
The unions already want his hide after signing the right to work legislation earlier last week and signing this legislation now, pardon the allusion, is just providing more ammunition for them to shot at him. Imagine the recall posters they could work up to combine and exploit those twin sets of raw feelings.
Better a Republican governor in office who may, eventually, sign the reviewed and resubmitted legislation than him being recalled now and replaced with a Democrat who will do the rights of gun owners a lot worse.
Once the investigators understand the dynamics of what actually happened and more importantly, why they happened, there can be analysis into the set of realistic options to prevent this type of tragedy from recurring. I feel that you are going to end up with a solution set that includes having enhanced barrier/access control systems AND specially trained and vetted individuals either carrying concealed on premises or having ready access to secured weapons stored in these facilities.
When they are there, the specially trained and vetted CCW visitor envisioned by the vetoed legislation may be an additional resource. However, a realistic active defense solution must assume they will not be there and, necessarily, must focus on arming some members of the facility staff since they are required to be on site.
Personally, given the ugly reality of what happened last Friday, I think you will find plenty of teachers willing to carry and, if necessary, kill in order to protect themselves and the students they love.
Think strategically, not tactically.
This bill will now be reworked by the Republican legislature and resubmitted. That will take some months to do and, in the meantime, passions will cool and the analysts and policy wonks will figure out how to best integrate the lessons coming out of the Newtown school massacre into the legislation. Eventually, a Republican governor who didn’t get recalled will sign it.
A newly elected Democrat governor whose recall election focused on its defeat won’t.
Now I get your graphic at #20.
The first Concealed Carry laws passed in Texas had this restriction. The next legislature realized error of their ways and deleted this restriction. Now, one can fully expect that there will legally be several guns in the congregation at every church service (including mine)!
What is the result of this veto? Seems to me that the result is now ensuring that the MI schools are to remain consistently in the same situation as CT’s schools. If you want to leave yourself open to violence, then make sure you have commonality with those that have been attacked!
You don’t know what guys do on boating trips, apparently. Maybe you better stay safe at home under your bed.
Nope. There is no track record for strategy producing tactics on this subject. It's all strategy.
"All hat and no cattle".
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