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To: BCW
So this is on the books, the FED is just not enforcing it - but it could - later down the road?

The code includes an "exemption" from tax on the "additional imputed income".

They could drop the exclusion and we'd be paying taxes on money we don't actually recieve as income.

At least that's the way I read it assuming that is actually what the tax code says.

5 posted on 12/19/2012 3:14:24 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: sonofagun

Then again, the passage on the tax is not sourced in this article.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 3:16:17 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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Read it again ~ when they impute rent they also impute depreciation and other costs associated with maintaining the property to be imputedly rented.

Notice that you do not currently get to deduct depreciation, or operating expenses (power, gas, sewer, water, paint, mowing, trimming, mortgage, trash removal) from your income.

Let's say Congress went totally nuts and decided to go after imputed income from owning a home ~ they'd set the initial value of the property at whatever it is on the market today ~ and the net rental income would be determined the regular way ~ gross rental income less deductable expenses and depreciation.

For about 99% of the individually owned SFDs, condos and trailers in America you'd be showing a loss! Actually, every time a large scale analyis of the situation has been attempted by anyone, they come up with a negative number.

Many people imagine their home value, as it increases over the years due to inflation, surrounding higher quality growth, and all the good stuff, is a serious personal profit center but it's not.

16 posted on 12/19/2012 4:25:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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Read it again ~ when they impute rent they also impute depreciation and other costs associated with maintaining the property to be imputedly rented.

Notice that you do not currently get to deduct depreciation, or operating expenses (power, gas, sewer, water, paint, mowing, trimming, mortgage, trash removal) from your income.

Let's say Congress went totally nuts and decided to go after imputed income from owning a home ~ they'd set the initial value of the property at whatever it is on the market today ~ and the net rental income would be determined the regular way ~ gross rental income less deductable expenses and depreciation.

For about 99% of the individually owned SFDs, condos and trailers in America you'd be showing a loss! Actually, every time a large scale analyis of the situation has been attempted by anyone, they come up with a negative number.

Many people imagine their home value, as it increases over the years due to inflation, surrounding higher quality growth, and all the good stuff, is a serious personal profit center but it's not.

17 posted on 12/19/2012 4:25:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sonofagun
My understanding is that the tax code includes this "imputed income" for the purpose of establishing income levels for certain things (maybe taxation of Social Security benefits for different brackets?), not for the purpose of actually collecting taxes on the "imputed income."

If the Federal government ever began taxing this kind of "imputed income," smart homeowners would simply do what some of my associated have done: transfer the ownership of the home to a limited-liability corporation owned by the homeowner*, pay rent to the corporation, and have the corporation legitimately deduct every penny of repairs, insurance, etc. on the home when computing its "income."

The IRS would end up collecting less revenue in that situation than under the current scenario.

* One particularly creative guy I know has his entire family listed as shareholders in the limited-liability company that owns his home. They make a point of holding their annual shareholders' meeting in Orlando every spring ... and deduct most of the cost of their annual Disney vacation as a "business expense."

18 posted on 12/19/2012 4:27:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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