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Pictures: Why OWS Protestors are wearing V for Vendetta masks
FirstPost ^ | Oct 18, 2011 | Shruti Dhapola

Posted on 12/19/2012 7:24:55 AM PST by combat_boots

If one were to look at pictures of the Occupy protests that are spreading in major cities all across the world, the one group of people you can’t afford to miss out are the people wearing the Guy Fawkes masks and holding up quotes from Alan Moore’s famous graphic novel V for Vendetta.

So who is Guy Fawkes? Well, he belongs to early 17th century England and was part of the Gun Powder plot in 1605. The Gun powder plot was by a group of English Catholics who wanted to assassinate the protestant King James.The conspirators sought to blow up the British Parliament in July but due to the plague the Parliament was only opened on November 5th. The gun powder was discovered in the early hours of 5th November and as Fawkes was seen leaving the cellar where the gun powder had been found, he was arrested, later tried and executed. November 5 in Britain thus became Guy Fawkes Day in order the celebrate the King’s escape from the assassination. For Guy Fawkes, the struggle was between the Catholics and the Protestants. So why are current wall street protestors wearing Guy Fawkes masks?

It is in the novel V for Vendetta where the masks are made popular by the central character V. The identity of V is never revealed and the major theme in the novel is V’s fight against the fascist state.

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1 posted on 12/19/2012 7:25:02 AM PST by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

Since the beginning, I had always found it a little ironic that OWS wears those masks. To me, V was always anti-govt, but these OWS tools are always the useful idiots of the state. They think they are against something, but they are clamoring for government control of the things they don’t like. Morons.


2 posted on 12/19/2012 7:31:06 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: combat_boots

One needs to watch V movie carefully. For it is not about the power of the people occupy anarchist uprising.

Those who have seen it clearly will see where the power actually comes from.

Very libertarian with a very small L


3 posted on 12/19/2012 7:31:10 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: combat_boots
Only brief mention of the fact that Lanza was wearing a mask was made by the MSM in the early stages of reporting on Newtown.

I wonder....since no reference to what kind of mask was made and since his computer hard drive "may be beyond repair" as reported by the LEOs...could Lanza have been wearing a Guy Fawkes mask? And were there numerous indications that Lanza was an OWS sympathizer on his hard drive?

Juuuust wondering. Surely, the media of today would want to report something like that. Wouldn't they?

4 posted on 12/19/2012 7:34:35 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

It’s the paradoxical outcome of realizing and denying you have become the thing you hate.

It’s l;ike punk rockers singing F the system as they collect record company royalties. See Tom Morello/Rage Against The Macnine for posterboy No. 1.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 7:35:24 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: combat_boots
Why is it that so many in the Occupy movement claim to be anarchists, but every one of their solutions seem to be intent on increasing government power?
6 posted on 12/19/2012 7:36:26 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: combat_boots

More likely they saw the movie, or maybe the graphic novel then to study a 400 year old dead white guy.

But the image was so cool!


7 posted on 12/19/2012 7:38:38 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: combat_boots
Years ago a Freeper pointed out how ridiculous wearing the mask looks without the entire "V" costume.
8 posted on 12/19/2012 7:38:52 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Chickensoup

I’m sorry, you can read things into it if you want to, but the Wachowskis are lefties and they clearly had a left-wing agenda they tried to put in the film. They took cheap shots at Bush and Christianity, while they glorified Islam and homosexuality. That’s not libertarian, that’s progressive agitprop.

The original comic books were not as bad, but still tilted a little to the left, like most all comic books do.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 7:39:46 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: combat_boots

2 funny things to note.
Before Anonymous picked up the symbol, the Guy Fawkes mask was an internet meme known as “Epic Fail Guy”.
The mask rights are owned by Time Warner so every time they buy a mask to protest big business, they are putting money in big business’ pocket.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 7:39:58 AM PST by mnehring
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To: combat_boots
The Gun powder plot was by a group of English Catholics who wanted to assassinate the protestant King James.

True, but rather an inadequate description.

Had they succeeded, it would have been more equivalent to blowing up the Capitol during the State of the Union Address. Take out the whole government.

What I find most bizarre about the whole plot is that the most likely reaction would have been truly massive pogroms against English Catholics.

11 posted on 12/19/2012 7:43:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: combat_boots

IMHO, it’s just another example of poseurism.

It’s cool to look and act like a revolutionary, and that is apparently enough to absolve the participants of having to give any thought to the likely results of their demands.

A lemming with a hippster mask is still a lemming.


12 posted on 12/19/2012 8:01:35 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: KarlInOhio

They are a specific type of anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, who have always been allied with the commies. They believe that in order for them to achieve their anarchist goals, they have to smash capitalism first, and then they can worry about whether the anarchists or the communists will take over. Of course, the anarchists never win that second struggle, they are just another bunch of useful idiots dancing to the commies’ tune.


13 posted on 12/19/2012 8:01:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Dr. Pritchett
Since the beginning, I had always found it a little ironic that OWS wears those masks. To me, V was always anti-govt, but these OWS tools are always the useful idiots of the state. They think they are against something, but they are clamoring for government control of the things they don’t like. Morons.

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

Who doubts that our current crop of "anarchists" are all for disarming private citizens and creating a national police force with power to arrest people before they've even committed a crime (all to keep us "safe")?

Most people who call themselves anarchists aren't anarchists.

14 posted on 12/19/2012 8:05:25 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Chickensoup
One needs to watch V movie carefully. For it is not about the power of the people occupy anarchist uprising.

Those who have seen it clearly will see where the power actually comes from.

Very libertarian with a very small L

I always felt the ending was a bit naive though, if the government had been truly evil (think Hitler, Stalin, Mao) they wouldn't have hesitated one second to mow down all those unarmed people wearing masks. An unarmed uprising of the people doesn't go very far when the people in power have no compunctions against exterminating them.

15 posted on 12/19/2012 8:06:49 AM PST by apillar
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To: Chickensoup

I got the same message from the “V for Vendetta” movie where it was anti-government with a libertarian, “just leave me alone,” bent.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 8:08:56 AM PST by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: Chickensoup

Read the book. Much superior to, and different from, the movie. (Not to bash the movie at all.)


17 posted on 12/19/2012 8:11:05 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Most people who call themselves anarchists aren’t anarchists.


As a rule, it seems that true anarchists don’t advertise themselves.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 8:11:14 AM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: combat_boots

Guy Fawkes wasn’t a figure of anti-establishment as many of his new fans and followers today see him. He was a figure of anti-Protestant establishment. His goal, and that of his conspirators, was to replace the Protestant monarchy of England with a Catholic one. Anyone who entertains the thought of donning a Guy Fawkes mask should keep that in mind especially since the Catholic Church is in their crosshairs.


19 posted on 12/19/2012 8:12:07 AM PST by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: apillar

“An unarmed uprising of the people doesn’t go very far when the people in power have no compunctions against exterminating them.”

The crux is whether the front-line troops will pull the triggers.
V spent a year on one-sided psychological warfare. Having ingrained the notion of how powerful one man in that mask was, the sight of tens of thousands of such masks was paralyzing to any troops not already persuaded to liberty.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 8:17:33 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And, morello isn’t really that great a guitar player. But, he is an outstanding POS. He should try on a mask. So many “hip”-o-crits, so little time. Maybe hugo chavez has a cabinet post for him and sean boy too. Is it guilt that makes these tools so supportive of lefty causes?

Share the lead.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 8:34:29 AM PST by rktman
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To: MWestMom

1st rule of fight club: you do not talk about fight club.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 9:13:27 AM PST by 31R1O
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To: 31R1O

Talk about what?.... : )


23 posted on 12/19/2012 9:14:50 AM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: 31R1O
Logically speaking, that statement is right up there with

"This statement is false."

≤}B^)

24 posted on 12/19/2012 9:56:07 AM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: combat_boots
THIS is a MUCH better example of today's situation.
25 posted on 12/19/2012 10:10:35 AM PST by redhead (America!! Remember who you are!!)
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To: Boogieman

I’m sorry, you can read things into it if you want to, but the Wachowskis are lefties and they clearly had a left-wing agenda they tried to put in the film. They took cheap shots at Bush and Christianity, while they glorified Islam and homosexuality. That’s not libertarian, that’s progressive agitprop.

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Saw what you are talking about.

But also saw the libertarian “Swiss” method working.

The people on the streets did nothing.


26 posted on 12/19/2012 1:10:11 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: apillar

I always felt the ending was a bit naive though, if the government had been truly evil (think Hitler, Stalin, Mao) they wouldn’t have hesitated one second to mow down all those unarmed people wearing masks. An unarmed uprising of the people doesn’t go very far when the people in power have no compunctions against exterminating them.

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The uprising is a ploy.

The real uprising were all the assasinations done by V. For by cutting the head of the government off, the troops had no leadership and therefore freedom ensued.

That is the Swiss method.

If you focus on the uprising and think of it as the power resisting force in the film you are sadly mistaken, as is OWS.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 1:16:01 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: ctdonath2; Nowhere Man

Read my posts at 26 and 27


28 posted on 12/19/2012 1:18:04 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

I’m not sure I catch your drift. The people did nothing, yes, but what does that demonstrate? They didn’t lift a finger to oppose their tyrants, they didn’t commit any of the acts of terrorism/freedom fighting, they didn’t build or plant the big bomb to blow up Parliament.

All I saw them do was spray paint a few V signs, and show up for the fireworks show. In the real world, they would have all been mowed down with machine guns or just clubbed into submission, Tianenmen Square-style. It was a leftie fantasy of revolution, where they could keep their pacifist ways, and let someone else do the dirty work for them.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 3:30:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ctdonath2

I’ve got to pick up the graphic novel one of these days. I have a first run copy of the first issue that I found at a country flea market a couple decades ago, but I never got around to picking up the rest of them.


30 posted on 12/19/2012 3:32:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

You are right, they would have been killed. The real message of the film is that removing the powerful leads to freedom not running in the streets. IE

The real uprising were all the assasinations done by V. For by cutting the head of the government off, the troops had no leadership and therefore freedom ensued.

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That is why the fillm is so powerful.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 4:27:48 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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