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Boehner’s Burden (Let the Arm Twisting Begin)
National Review ^

Posted on 12/19/2012 3:08:13 PM PST by Windy City Conservative

The House will take up “Plan B,” Speaker Boehner’s fiscal-cliff proposal, on Thursday. It’s a critical vote for Republicans. If it passes, the Senate and the White House will be pressured to either support it or amend it, especially if the ongoing debt talks continue to stall. If it fails, Boehner’s negotiating power will be diminished. If he can’t sway his caucus on a simple measure to extend tax rates for those making less than $1 million, Democrats doubt he’d be able to whip a broader deal.

Behind the scenes, Boehner is hustling to woo his increasingly uneasy colleagues. House leaders are huddling with backbenchers, assuaging their concerns and urging them to support the rule. Politico reported on Wednesday that due to the close whip count, Boehner is considering adding spending cuts to the Plan B package, in the hopes of winning more conservative support.

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This article also calls Grover Norquist and Paul Ryan "conservative leaders". Paul Ryan isn't a leader, he is a Boehner follower. If all you do is vote the way House leadership wants you to vote, that doesn't make you a leader.
1 posted on 12/19/2012 3:08:17 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative
Ho-hum... I've voted for my last GOP liberal many years ago. They are headed toward Whig status quickly.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/19/2012 3:13:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Why the HELL are these jerks fighting over how much to raise taxes and cut social security, with not a single word about cutting wasteful spending?

The only spending they can figure out how to cut is social security and medicare?


3 posted on 12/19/2012 3:20:33 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I cannot believe conservatives will vote for any Tax increase. Period.
Why not throw in gun control, amnesty and more free Obama phones,
as well? If that is not enough for Obama, why not open the flood gates
on the border.
Since Harry Reid has said this Plan B is DOA.
I am guessing this is a test vote to see who Bonehead and Cantor
can threaten before the real vote. Any conservative who votes for this
charade should be primaried


4 posted on 12/19/2012 3:23:27 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Cicero
What? You want them to cut the diversity trainers and arts boards? That's crazy talk. /s

/johnny

5 posted on 12/19/2012 3:26:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cicero

Let the meataxe fall, when sequestration sets in.

ANYTHING the House of Representatives may vote out, shall surely expire in the Senate.

Sometimes, gridlock is your friend....

The country has become virtually ungovernable. Secession looks more and more like a viable alternative.

If only to keep the lights on and the trains running.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 3:27:16 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Cicero

“Why the HELL are these jerks fighting over how much to raise taxes and cut social security, with not a single word about cutting wasteful spending?”

Because they are pi$$ing down our backs and telling us it is raining. And 47% of the populace believe them and another 5% are too wishy washy to make up their own minds.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 3:40:49 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: Cicero

They can’t bring themselves to name even one POS govt agency that could be shuttered. I can name 4-5. Whats wrong wth that picture?


8 posted on 12/19/2012 3:41:35 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"Boehner is considering adding spending cuts to the Plan B package, in the hopes of winning more conservative support."

Spending cuts- oh no we're doomed LOL!

"We need more spending, more taxes and more debt!"Copyright USMEDIA INC

Debt, Spending und Taxes uber alles!

9 posted on 12/19/2012 3:54:40 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Republican's new slogan:

Plan B - More Pure Than Ivory Soap!!!


10 posted on 12/19/2012 3:54:40 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Windy City Conservative

There is one political fact that can’t be stated enough. In the current circumstances, this Plan B is the “best” GOP can do. Any other resolution to the so called Cliff will be worse than this plan for the GOP and conservatives.

Sure, all of us can wish the politics were different. But, they are not. Period.


11 posted on 12/19/2012 3:55:01 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Windy City Conservative
The House will take up “Plan B,” Speaker Boehner’s fiscal-cliff proposal, on Thursday

I don't agree with Plan B however, how much you wanna bet the RAT's walk out en masse right toward the TV cameras right before the vote?

And the MSM will triumph this action with words of praise and courage, standing up to those incalcitrant Republicans - with no word mentioned of the compromise that is Plan B.

My point is - we know what the outcome of the media coverage will be of this so, why compromise? And - they (Pubbies) need to learn how to speak above the MSM.

12 posted on 12/19/2012 3:56:09 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: tennmountainman
I cannot believe conservatives will vote for any Tax increase. Period.

Everybody brags about how Clinton balanced the budget.

Everybody wants to go back to the Clinton tax rates.

Why then don't we go back to the Clinton budget?

Okay so maybe we have a larger population now. So we would then received more tax revenues, therefore we could increase the current budget by that same amount.

13 posted on 12/19/2012 3:59:33 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

We have a larger population, but we have a larger percent of free loaders,
as well.


14 posted on 12/19/2012 4:21:39 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Cicero
Please take a look at total spending.
Though, in political terms, it hurts Republicans when we act like adults on spending matters -—
We should BE THE ADULTS!

This country can not afford to keep the promises it has made.

We just can't.

If you are now over 70 and you live to age 80, you will get a better financial return on Social Security and on Medicare than ANYONE now age 55 or younger.

The country is BANKRUPT!

I do not like it that Obamacare is taking budget money needed for other programs, and YES we need to make that case.

However? We would be broke today, even if McCain had defeated Obama the first time around, as people are living longer and longer and Medicare and Social Security were designed under entirely different life expectances and demographics.

15 posted on 12/19/2012 4:42:38 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: indianrightwinger

There is one political fact that can’t be stated enough. In the current circumstances, this Plan B is the “best” GOP can do. Any other resolution to the so called Cliff will be worse than this plan for the GOP and conservatives.

You must have a very short memory. The reason for this fiscal cliff is
the deal Bonehead cut Two years ago, regarding the debt ceiling. U know
the deal the GOP voted for two years ago. If the GOP doesn’t like the
outcome of that deal now, why did they like it then, when THEY voted
for it.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 4:42:38 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
but we have a larger percent of free loaders, as well.

Well they are going to have to get off of our back. We can't afford them. Obama has greatly expanded welfare and unemployment. We need to make it where it where working is more profitable than welfare. They maybe freeloaders but they are not stupid.

17 posted on 12/19/2012 4:55:08 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

We are already passed the point of no return, in that respect.
The Takers represent half our population. It’s finished on a national
level. Eventually we will lose conservative states as well.


18 posted on 12/19/2012 5:01:56 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
It’s finished on a national level. Eventually we will lose conservative states as well.

I'm thinking you may be right.

19 posted on 12/19/2012 5:37:45 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: tennmountainman

Factually incorrect. Bush tax cuts were extended for all for 2 years after 2010 elections to punt until 2012 election. Sequester is the debt ceiling related deal, and has nothing to do with Plan B vote.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 6:35:11 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Windy City Conservative

Well, Rand Paul has been uppity with the Rinos and pissed them off. So he’s not all bad.

Better than most of the empty head nodders in the Senate. He’s knows when to play ‘em and when to hold ‘em, imho. Hopefully, he’ll do better in effecting change than his dad who digressed into a mind rut of libertarian insanity.

Conservatives are a rariety in the Senate.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 6:55:38 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Windy City Conservative

Like I said, you vote against this bill and you are raising my and everyone I know’s taxes.
I have had it with these nut bags who got O re-elected and gave Dems seats in both houses by pressing stupid stuff like raising taxes on us 99.5% (ME) over the 0.2%, who still won’t get a automatic tax increase on their first $1M under this bill.

Support Obama and Pelosi on this and I will know what you are up to. They are having the laugh of their life,


22 posted on 12/19/2012 7:40:07 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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