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I am not going to argue a fact that the senate passed a bill to extend Bush tax cuts under 250k. Since it is not a NEW tax it does not. Yes new taxes and spending must originate in the house. I am aware of the rules.

Doesn’t matter anyway we will go over cliff and republicans will be blamed and in truth after yesterday we look like idiots. 53% of Americans see us as too extreme. The brand is hurting, bad.

You are misconstruing what happened. The Senate can pass all the tax bills it wants, but if they didn't originate in the house, they simply don't count. somebody in the house has to actually submit a bill ~ new number and all ~ that initiates the process and that bill, if passed, will go back through the Senate.

The problem for the Democrats is they do not control the legislative agenda of the house ~ they used to, but they don't now. The Senate can send over all sorts of stuff but they can't force the house to vote on it anyway, nor can the minority party, which takes us into the so-called 'discharge petition', where you might have democrats and republicans both demanding a bill being taken up ~ and there the Speaker still has lots of options ~ mostly to delay indefinitely.

To pass an Obamugabe bill in the house you have to take over the house.

Boehner imagines he has enemies trying to take over the house ~ he thinks they're Conservatives. All of which means he's a madman who must be deposed as soon as possible.

"Section. 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

Doesn't say just 'new taxes' ~ the specific reference is to 'raising revenue' ~