Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Behind the scenes of a GOP meltdown
Politico ^ | 12/21/2012 | Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan

Posted on 12/21/2012 7:57:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Things were so bad for Speaker John Boehner Thursday night, support for his Plan B tax bill so diminished, the limits of his power with his own party laid bare, that he stood in front of the House Republican Conference and recited the Serenity Prayer.

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

Boehner nearly cried.

The Ohio Republican accepted that he couldn’t change the minds of his House Republican Conference. He tried to convince them that, facing tough negotiations with President Barack Obama over the fiscal cliff, he needed them on his side — and he fell short. With that, Boehner — a man who has clawed back from the political ledge to arrive at the top rung of power — saw perhaps the lowest moment in his speakership.

It was supposed to be a moment of strength, a way to drag Obama and the Democrats toward them in the high-stakes fiscal cliff negotiations that have Washington teetering on the brink. Instead, it showed the world that either Boehner couldn’t bring 217 of his own members to his side, or they were unwilling to be led by him in this fight.

Rep. Mike Kelly, a burly freshman from Pennsylvania, stood in front of a closed meeting in the basement of the Capitol and said his fellow Republicans were selfish. Boehner, he said, has done a good job.

It was too late. The meeting had adjourned. No heartfelt rhetoric from Boehner. He and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) simply read statements later delivered to the press, and went their respective ways.

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; fiscalcliff; taxes
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-57 next last

1 posted on 12/21/2012 7:57:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This has got to be satire, right?


2 posted on 12/21/2012 8:00:31 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 12/21/2012 8:01:23 AM PST by jimbo123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet
RE: This has got to be satire, right?

They don't call Boehner the "weeper" of the house for nothing...

4 posted on 12/21/2012 8:02:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Can’t we find some long-haired, tattooed, biker dude to be the next Speaker? This Caspar Milquetoast crap from the GOP has to end.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 8:04:17 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Boehner was late getting a smoke break.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 8:05:11 AM PST by crosshairs (It's all about good vs evil. In the end, evil is destroyed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Jeeves
Soemthing along the lines of:


7 posted on 12/21/2012 8:07:31 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
If he actually did this, he has got to be the biggest p**sy to ever hold the Speakership, not to mention just being a member of the House. I still believe this is satire. I just can't imagine such wimpy crybaby leading the House of Representatives of the United States Congress and then whining with that old screed.

Has no one ever told him that HE and his financial committee (forgot official name) hold the purse of the entire nation? Talk about a lack of fortitude. What a punk.

8 posted on 12/21/2012 8:09:36 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Boehner just demonstrated that the republican party is not going to roll over for the marxists this time.
I expect that Obama and Reid will try to send the house some tricked up bill that could get the support of pelosi and hope that Boehner and a few others will cross the isle and pass it.
I left a message for the speaker saying I really hoped he would not even bring up the bill for discussion. He needs to do like Reid does and say it is DOA.
9 posted on 12/21/2012 8:12:04 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Opposing this guy is a No Brainer Boehner.

This guy is the Rodney King of house speakers. "Hey Democrats, can't we just get along?"

Please God, make it end...

10 posted on 12/21/2012 8:15:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Boehner nearly cried.

I am so sick of reading articles containing these words. What is it with this man? He should get a job on a soap opera, he cries so easily.
11 posted on 12/21/2012 8:16:08 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana
BULLYBAMAII
12 posted on 12/21/2012 8:16:14 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
“He’s tried his best,” said Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Ohio), a longtime Boehner confidant who is leaving Congress at the end of the year. “But sometimes your best isn’t good enough in the face of some people that just don’t want to find common ground.”

This LaTourette loser went on the morning shows and called Conservative House members "chuckleheads." I hope this follows him in whatever cushy K-Street job he lands in January.

13 posted on 12/21/2012 8:19:35 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana
Probably need to explain that photo for those who haven't seen the movie, IDIOCRACY.

I'll do it for you: That is the president in the far future who has NO clue on how to do anything other than look tough as the US is populated by full-on absolute idiots. They can't even figure out why their crops won't grow because they irrigate them with a gatorade type liquid. "It has Electrolytes!", which they think is ALL good no matter what.

Kind reminds me of someone in the White House I've heard about, and a lot of the voting public. IDEOCRACY coming to a town near you. Get your tickets early.

14 posted on 12/21/2012 8:21:10 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
I really hope he isn't surprised that he didn't have support of the conservative Republicans after back stabbing them with committee assignments.
15 posted on 12/21/2012 8:22:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jimbo123

what a bunch of effing dandies...


16 posted on 12/21/2012 8:27:14 AM PST by wardaddy (fwanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Photobucket
17 posted on 12/21/2012 8:28:59 AM PST by baddog 219
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oldbrowser; SeekAndFind
Do we have any nominees for the new House Speaker? We can start the list off with any Republican voting 'NO' to raising the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion 16 months ago: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll690.xml

I nominate either Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia or Tom McClintock of California.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 8:30:48 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
"Please God, make it end..."

Sorry ole FRiend, it's not going to end. Now that the "gimmes" have taken over and growing, there is no going back. I suggest to everyone on these threads:
1. Protect your assets - they WILL be coming for them;
2. Stay armed, because once the economical shit hits the fan, we will be the next Greece with all their riots;
3. Prep for at least 6 months...better, a year.

We're toast and I'm not a conspiracy type. The writing is on the wall. We responsible producers have lost. Give me a ray of hope. I beg you.

Oh, BTW, are you still there or did Mayan end times take you out? Am I the last to exist as I write this? If so, cool for me.

19 posted on 12/21/2012 8:32:13 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

He doesn’t have the support of the caucus for tax, debt, and spending increases.

When is that going to sink in?

Surely he can bring the RINOs around to a neutral budget: REAL cuts for REAL increases!


20 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:37 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet

Don’t say that too loud. Some of his fan club might get ideas. See the light. Admit the truth of it...

Nah. They are just as screwed up as he is.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: oldbrowser
"Boehner just demonstrated that the republican party is not going to roll over for the marxists this time."

With all due respect, BULLSHIT. All he had to do was work with the conservatives in the House and pass a bill to extend ALL the Bush tax cuts, and then adjourn the House after they passed it, and then leave it on Reid's desk.

With just a little PR, the Pubbies could have said "look what we did, but Reid's Senate wouldn't even consider it", much less submit a budget in the last 4 years. Boehner & Co. have not one testicle among the bunch. They are still afraid of how Clinton claimed the Pubbies were responsible for shutting down the Fedgov, when it was actually Clinton.

Keep your Boener. I'm done with the Republican party. Even many of the TEA Party newbies are falling in line after your bud fired a couple of them. And no, I don't care if that gives more to Dimosocialists. The takers have taken over. I'm okay with a complete melt-down.

22 posted on 12/21/2012 8:47:40 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana

I would prefer President Dwayne Elizondo Herbert Mountain Dew Camacho. He’s a five time Smackdown champion and porn superstar.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 8:49:10 AM PST by EEGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet
Our ray of hope is that most of us are better prepared than they are. We own most of the farmlands, the means of production and the guns to defend them. We also own most of the skills and the work ethic to preserve what we can and rebuild what we cannot.

When TSHTF and the EBT cards cease to be accepted, more and more people will see Fedzilla as the worthless, toothless non-productive tool of the gimmes which it has become. More and more of us might even demand a massive and long overdue downsizing.

We can start by leasing the large populated by fairly concentrated areas inhabited by gimmes to the ChiComs to govern as special administrative regions, much like they do Hong Kong to help retire our debt. We should start with those areas with the largest concentrations of Obama voters.

Read until the end of the Book of Revelation. We may go through hell, but we win in the end.

24 posted on 12/21/2012 8:51:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Speaker,

Step 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 8:53:04 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet

Don’t feel bad. A relative has one of those sorta but not really MIB type jobs and I keep asking to ask the bosses to let me go to Area 51 to hitch a ride home.

I miss my home. It’s in another dimension just like this one. With far less idiots drinking Brawndo (the Idiocracy irrigation stuff).


26 posted on 12/21/2012 8:54:11 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet

I hate to say this, but Nancy Pelosi showed more b@lls when she was speaker than this weeping wimp.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 8:56:32 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

And what does this say about obamas ability to lead? Of course it’s once again the other party’s fault when there’s no deal?


28 posted on 12/21/2012 9:07:12 AM PST by linn37 (w)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet
With all due respect, BULLSHIT. All he had to do was work with the conservatives in the House and pass a bill to extend ALL the Bush tax cuts, and then adjourn the House after they passed it, and then leave it on Reid's desk.

The house passed that bill already, last August, and it has been sitting on Reid's desk ever since. That is the bill that Reid said was DOA.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 9:07:43 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Hoodat

NEWT


30 posted on 12/21/2012 9:13:58 AM PST by true believer forever ( we can do this!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet

I’m still here at this point. Be sure to let me know if you get taken out. I’ll do the same. ;^)

We’ve got close to six months now. Water is a check, but I need to do better with food.

We put in propane for our grill, but I need to bump that up as well.

It’s not that hard to do. It’s just taking the time to do it.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

You cannot cut off 20 or 30 of your people at the knees and then expect them to vote your way.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 9:29:51 AM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

We need new leadership NOW!


33 posted on 12/21/2012 9:33:50 AM PST by BinaryBoy (I'm anti-socialism because I'm anti-slavery.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

We need new leadership NOW!


34 posted on 12/21/2012 9:34:07 AM PST by BinaryBoy (I'm anti-socialism because I'm anti-slavery.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The fact this democratic rag is coddling Bonehead should tell anyone
with an open mind how the DC Party feels about Bonehead.
Bonehead tried to who- do his own party. Thank God he failed.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 9:37:42 AM PST by tennmountainman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oldbrowser

Boehner just demonstrated that the republican party is not going to roll over for the marxists this time.


No, he just showed there is no credible opposition to the marxists. The kenyan will get everything he wants after we go over the cliff. Everything.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 9:40:32 AM PST by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Things were so bad for Speaker John Boehner Thursday night, support for his Plan B tax bill so diminished, the limits of his power with his own party laid bare, that he stood in front of the House Republican Conference and recited the Serenity Prayer.

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

Boehner nearly cried.

Photobucket

This weeping, spray-tanned, alcoholic girly man needs to go away. We only need 16 representatives to withold their votes for his reelection as speaker next month. Please, can just 16 of them find one testicle between them?

37 posted on 12/21/2012 9:44:43 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

These guys care only for their own jobs and the power that comes with those jobs. They care little to nothing of their constituents and their country.

They’re a bunch of hack lawyers who are too lazy and tired of working in law firms and want to hang onto the power (and sex) of being in congress. Oh yes, and their pensions and gold plated health insurance.

Term limits!!


38 posted on 12/21/2012 9:47:18 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio
I really hope he isn't surprised that he didn't have support of the conservative Republicans after back stabbing them with committee assignments.

Oh, he was surprised, all right. Just like the cowardly loser wife-beater who is surprised by the spouse who finally stands up for herself. "Wha-?? You leavin' me??? Now, where did THAT come from?"

39 posted on 12/21/2012 9:50:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: oldbrowser

The Republicans should have said at the beginning of this farce,”We sent you our bill already. The matter is closed,” and go home for the holidays then not come back until the original bill is dealt with properly.


40 posted on 12/21/2012 9:52:42 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: lonevoice

Weeping John take a hint, that crying thing is old and unmanly, it's past time to spend more time with your family, depart.

41 posted on 12/21/2012 9:55:51 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
Your ray of hope is hopeless.

1. If things got that bad to literally fight the Fedgov, we will lose. I know, 100 million gun owners, but really? up against the Army? C'mon, maybe a few sporadic gunfights by some brave rural types. I believe the general population will lay down their arms once the Federalized National Guard moves in. Most would rather survive under dictatorship with their children than risk them being orphans (sound familiar?). The few well trained will try and maybe some old farts like me, but we're dying off by the day.

2. The "gimmes" will never ever accept the idea that their Fedgov or Stategov has failed them. They will just riot more and more and deal with the tear gas and/or rubber bullets until the politicians give in. No one has the balls anymore just to shoot rioters/looters as we did before. Oh noes, a human life gone because he stole an HDTV and burned the store down that was some productive innocent's livelihood. Poor guy, must have been from bad parents. F*ck him, as the Koreans thought in the Rodney King riots. They stood their ground on top of their stores and not a ONE was attacked.

3. Good luck with the ChiComs buying and administering certain regions in the USA. Sounds like "Red Dawn 2.0" to me (lol). While China has allowed Hong Kong to exist as capitalist entity, they only do that for the revenues to the communist party, the same as they do in Macau casinos.

4. I'm not a religious person, so I don't believe the Bible, the Torah, the Koran/Hadiths, nor any other theology. They all once thought the world was flat. Let's just agree to let that go. I mean no offense, in fact, I think the best people in the World are Christians and Jews. I'm an absolute supporter of Israel.

Okay now that I've been so negative, let me tell you the one last hope I have and that is States' Rights! We now have some 30 Republican (although questionable if conservative) and state legislatures. Last I read, some 26 States refuse to build an Obamacare health exchange system. Even if the Fedgov can actually build such "exchanges" it saves the State's their sovereign rights and money. Although Robert's should have shot down the entire Obamacare law, we did see a unanimous vote that Congress had over-stepped their idea of the "Commerce Clause". That was a huge win for now.

Anyway to build that many Fedgov "exchanges" will be such a bureaucratic nightmare that it may fall just because of that. Obama can hire all the people he wants as he has done, but I believe there couldn't be enough fat minority ladies and loser minority men (yes, I said that) to possibly administer such a complex entity (think DMV).

Like the b*tch said, "We have to pass it to see what's in it". Their arrogant utopian dream is now becoming a reality while I read every day of another company laying off employees to get under 50, or reducing the hours to less than 30 a week. I can hardly wait until the Boomers start getting shut off from live-saving care on a regular basis.

Sarah Palin is one smart Lady. I'm going to be laughing at all those who voted Obambi in twice and let him take their health care system away. I will laugh until my last breath...cough, giggle, cough, giggle, gasp, giggle!

42 posted on 12/21/2012 10:13:43 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: oldbrowser
"The house passed that bill already, last August, and it has been sitting on Reid's desk ever since. That is the bill that Reid said was DOA."

My bad, I forgot.

Still, why hasn't Boehner and Co. promoted that or the fact that Reid's privately owned Senate hasn't submitted a budget in 4 years? Speaker Boehner is out of excuses. He is not only not PR savvy, he is incompetent.

43 posted on 12/21/2012 10:21:46 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: lonevoice

Thanks for the ping!


44 posted on 12/21/2012 10:34:46 AM PST by Pride in the USA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet
Speaker Boehner is out of excuses. He is not only not PR savvy, he is incompetent

There is no doubt that he is kind of wobbly, he isn't very inspirational and we are at a tumultuous point in our history. Still he is our leader currently and we have to try to work through him . Hopefully the conservatives will keep him from fainting.

45 posted on 12/21/2012 10:38:14 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: arthurus
The Republicans should have said at the beginning of this farce,”We sent you our bill already.

Agreed.

46 posted on 12/21/2012 10:44:14 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The Republican Party should just change their name to the Washington Generals.


47 posted on 12/21/2012 10:45:48 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A Navy Vet
There is historic precedent for all of this, for instance:
  1. America, 1776, even worse odds. Romania, 1989, the dictatorship in full control in November and standing in front of a firing squad that Christmas.

  2. Napoleon, just after the French got their fill of mob rule during the Reign of Terror. He didn't have to shoot all the rioting malcontents, just enough to send the others a message.

  3. Detroit, THE primary basket case example in America, would be a relative gold mine to the ChiComs. Great location and an infrastructure only needing repairs, not full rebuilding. Yeah, lazy malcontents now run the city, but refer to the Napoleon example. Los Angeles? Even more so.

  4. God does not cease to exist even if a majority ceases to beleive in him. Sodom found that out the hard way. Something bigger than us exists as the Libtrards will eventually find out.

    We don't know what will bring about the end to the nightmare which BO so symbolizes. It could be your scenario. It could be Soviet Union style implosion. It could be the second coming of Jesus Christ.

    All we know is that it well end because it is unsustainable and goes against human nature.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 10:47:17 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: lodi90
The kenyan will get everything he wants after we go over the cliff. Everything.

That remains to be seen. The "cliff" is not that big of a deal. A bigger problem will be dealing with the expiring unemployment extensions. The biggest deal will be the national debt limit.

I believe that conservatives can bring Obama to heel with these negotiations. We can make him understand that this is not his money he is wasting.

49 posted on 12/21/2012 10:53:16 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
"I’m still here at this point. Be sure to let me know if you get taken out. I’ll do the same. ;^). We’ve got close to six months now. Water is a check, but I need to do better with food. We put in propane for our grill, but I need to bump that up as well. It’s not that hard to do. It’s just taking the time to do it."

Har! I'm still waiting for the end. Could be quite a show. Unfortunately, it's getting bright here in SoCal so unless the Sun melts, guess we'll miss the comet hitting us.

As for preps, see Nitro-Pak. Best site I've found and best prices. They ship quickly. Check out their Mountain House freeze dried foods which many on the Web swear by and have the best prices. I bought a years worth about 3 years ago and they are good for 25 years! Forget MRE's except for a bug out bag. If you're city or suburban, don't bother. The roads will be clogged.

Yes, water is the biggest problem. However, if it's not the end of the world, you have 50 gallons of drinkable water in your hot-water heater that most people forget about. Attache a hose connection for quick access. No one ever mentions that in the survival threads. Yes, everyone is suppose to drink a gallon day...how many really do? Plus you have what's in your toilet tanks, and if enough notification as in Cali earthquakes or dirty bomb before the water pipelines or pumping stations stop, start filling your bathtubs and sinks and have a high quality filter (Katadyn). Also, make sure you know where the nearest water supply is how you will access it, if only a lake or reservoirs. Again, think high quality filter.

Plus, have a crank radio that are multi-band and includes a flashlight and can recharge cell phones and such, multiple shake flashlights, many oil fed lamps, potassium tablets for nuke radiation, and look at a generator to run your fridge and microwave at the least. Also look at this if it works for you, which I think you're in SoCal and we met at BobJ's house or other...Sun Oven.

If you have the above or buy the above do NOT let your neighbors know you have such supplies. Trust goes out the window in survival mode.

Most importantly, have weapons.

Freepmail me if you want to be part of our neighborhood watch in an extreme emergency.

50 posted on 12/21/2012 11:29:19 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson