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1 posted on 12/22/2012 4:08:32 AM PST by Kaslin
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Can We Make Love and Not War? Sorry, No

Agreed because it is not as profitable to make love as it is to rebuild that which war destroys!!!

2 posted on 12/22/2012 4:48:16 AM PST by varon ( I'll take the Mafia over the Feds anytime)
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We need a foreign policy that uses the proven lessons we learned from the Cold War

The Cold War is exactly like the fight against Muslim extremism? Enough so that we should fight it the same way?

Let's see:

Opponents in Cold War: Ideological governments controlling well over a billion people and posing a major existential threat by conventional military and an even greater one from nuclear attack. Distinct possibiity of a major controntation resulting in total destruction of USA and/or end of civilization or even human life. Possible death toll within hours of all out war starting: Billions.

Opponents in war against Muslim extremism: Loosely organized NGOs posing zero conventional military threat or nuclear threat at this time. Maximum possible threat: They get their hands on a few nukes and take out six American cities. Possible death toll: 1M? (in America). Could be much higher in an countries held responsible for assisting in the attack.

There may be excellent reasons for not trying to remake countries as we see fit. That our present situation is "the same" as that in the Cold War is not one of those reasons.

One of the reasons conservative vs. liberal arguments about the fight against Muslim extremism is so sterile is that we are constantly trying to make the conflict "just like" some previous war.

Conservatives (or possibly just the neo version) think it's always the 1930s and appeasement must be avoided. Liberals always think it's 1965 and we need to avoided being dragged into "another Vietnam."

How's about we try recognizing that Muslim terrorists are neither Hitler nor Ho? That new problems require new solutions, not tired recycling of what would supposedly have prevented the earlier problems?

3 posted on 12/22/2012 5:08:53 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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“In the lost decade of the Sixties and Seventies we fought a war in Vietnam that commanded a sizable commitment of US troops- and US dollars- a war without an exit strategy. “

A sentence that illustrates the western problem with conflict all too clearly... The problem wasn’t the lack of an exit strategy. The problem was the lack of a victory strategy...


5 posted on 12/22/2012 7:18:55 AM PST by LastNorwegian
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