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10 Facts for Liberals: Why Gun Control Can't Stop Another Newtown Massacre
Townhall.com ^ | December 22, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 12/22/2012 4:15:50 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Sorry, you're being logical and rational, to quote Animal House,

"No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!"

That's the "reasoning" behind gun control

21 posted on 12/22/2012 6:23:58 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Kaslin

It would be more intellectually honest if Mr. Soetoro would simply advocate for the removal of the Bill of Rights. Unfortunately, feral incumbant politicians using low-information voters would have the initiative passed in a Marxist minute.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 6:29:43 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Kaslin

So, the government wants to create a new “war on guns”?

We once had a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol. It didn’t take too long before everyone realized they had to have a second constitutional amndment to repeal that ban.

That ban created the biggest black market in illegal substances ever, and propelled low level crime into organized crime, mobsters, and the mafia on a major level, giving rise to Al Capone, Bugsy Seigel, the Bonano crime family, and more. As a result, drug cartels learned from those endeavors, and have grown even larger and more dangerous to all of us than the mafia rising out of the ban on alcohol never ever dreamed of. The reason that gangs in Chicago and Los Angeles and New York all have guns and are the perpetrators of most of the crime is a result of young up and coming gangsters protecting their turf. And we can lay the roots of these violence acts back to the prohibition on alcohol, which taught the bullies - and ultimate leaders - of the illegal black markets how they can take advantage of the rest of us.

And we’ve had a war on drugs for decades. How has that worked out? The only real result is that it gave a few self-centered politicians a reason to fell good, even though it hasn’t worked. Even the libs say the best way to combat drug abuse is education.

We don’t need another war on “something the people want”; that serves only to mask the problems that exist in a few of us so-called civilized people, and will serve only to send law-abiding citizens to the black market to obtain the guns and ammunition they feel they need to protect themselves, creating more crime kingpins. And ordinary citizens will react in the way they did during prohibition, they’ll think it’s “cool” to violate the law.

What we need is an education program geared to teaching the people to understand that guns aren’t the enemy. I’ll go so far as to recommend we give it the same impetus and emphasis as we do sex education in school. The program needs to be mandatory and it needs to start at younger ages at the elementary level, to teach kids not to be afraid of guns and weapons, but to educate them so that anytime someone sees a gun, a real understanding is what’s needed, not an occasion just wring one’s hands and run away screaming.


23 posted on 12/22/2012 6:49:03 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: Kaslin

Why not try passive resistance? Hide your guns, if you have to. Don’t cooperate. What can the government do if enough people go that route?


24 posted on 12/22/2012 6:53:21 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: driftless2
Hire an old geezer like the old coot who stopped that robbery in the Florida casino. That old codger moved very fast and wasn't the least bit afraid to confront the armed punks.

Bravo!! We finally found something for us oldsters to do. And we are not as afraid to die as others since we have lived a long and full life. Retired peace officers and other well-regulated individuals, (carrying concealed) allowed to "visit" the school and have a meal at the school cafeteria, would be a strong deterrent.

25 posted on 12/22/2012 7:10:37 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Kaslin
Adam Lanza, obviously not caring about his own life, could have just as easily loaded his car with cans of gasoline and drove it into the school and set the school on fire possibly killing even more than he did.

Schools have their much vaunted "lock down" plans, but apparently that plan failed at Sandy Hook. Lanza supposedly shot through the glass on front door to gain access which should have given time to put the school on lock down if there had been a good and tested plan and notification system. Knowing how school bureaucracies work, I would bet that to put the school on lock down requires approvals from principals, vice principals and a call to central administration. I have a feeling that school "lock down" plans are just paper exercises designed by school bureaucrats and are not realistically tested. Back in my day school fire drills were pretty much that way. The drills were often announced in advance, no attempt was made to make them more realistic by blocking some exits to test using alternatives routes or simulating smoke filled halls and making students get down to make their exit. We just heard the alarm and walked out the door like nothing was happening. I would bet "lock down" drills are conducted much the same.

26 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:07 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Kaslin

A 95-year-old blind grandma with the shakes could change a magazine in 5 seconds. A 20-year-old could do it faster.


27 posted on 12/22/2012 7:47:25 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kozak

Liberals and logic? Are you joking?


28 posted on 12/22/2012 7:58:15 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Right Wing Assault

Provided they know what they are doing


29 posted on 12/22/2012 8:05:17 AM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: Kaslin
For schools all this cops-in-school and ban-the-AR15-and-mags is unnecessary. Just implementing the fence/gate/guard flow of people and articles commonly used by manufacturing plants to stem product/inventory shrinkage will solvre 99% of the problem. What is needed is not teacher CCDWs, roaming cops, etc. Just the guidance of a building security consultant, and part-time hiring of a guard. Period. For a school.
30 posted on 12/22/2012 8:07:42 AM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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And, oh — add corporal punishment if the student is too immature or antsy to follow verbal commands. No arguments from parents allowed. Like the old days. Worked the old days. Remember the song? “School days, school days, good old Golden Rule days — reading and writing and ‘rithmetic, taught to the tune of a hickory stick.” Applied to the seat of learning. No school shooting then, ya betcha.


31 posted on 12/22/2012 8:45:14 AM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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The ONLY solution to this problem is to do what Israel did........................... Image and video hosting by TinyPic Image and video hosting by TinyPic
32 posted on 12/22/2012 10:09:12 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: Kaslin

facts and logic mean nothing, they are appealing to fear and emotion.

in generalities, this line splits across gender. the men pushing for this have ulterior motives, they are manipulating their intended demo group to beg them to do this. we’re just responding to what the people want...


33 posted on 12/22/2012 10:15:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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