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To: Timber Rattler
We get it. Christmas day; you come on Newt threads right off the start with this rudeness. You literally have it out for the man. Most of everything Newt shared is true and helpful. Stay with the message. He didn't promote gay marriage. I am totally against it. I didn't heard that. He says marriage is between one man, one woman. What part of that is hard to follow. He only said something that many do not want to accept that there's too many people accepting that lifestyle. How can you undo their thinking. They have been conditioned with a society without God. And some people think it's your body, your mind, your life so they have the freedom to do as they choose, I guess is where it may come back to as this thinking. Where did that come from? But the GOP has to accept, this is not a path to build their party. Accept civil unions, not GM, don't promote it at all. They do that and they are done. Their base is on life support with just a few issues. Gay marriage and gun control which has moved ahead of borders for right now. They do something dumb with anti traditional values, they are asking for trouble. It looks like the man is trying to help the problem. Wait to see what happens and hope something positive comes vs a negative outlook.
75 posted on 12/25/2012 11:48:35 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

That should be: correction: patriot.

Which I think most of us are just that.


76 posted on 12/25/2012 11:52:46 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach
We get it. Christmas day; you come on Newt threads right off the start with this rudeness. You literally have it out for the man. Most of everything Newt shared is true and helpful.

I have no use for charlatans. And it never ceases to amaze me how some people around here are still clinging to his every word, even when he is clearly pushing a "party first" agenda now.

Are you "party first?"

79 posted on 12/25/2012 1:18:49 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Christie at the beach; Toespi; Blackirish; X-spurt; All
Most of everything Newt shared is true and helpful. Stay with the message. He didn't promote gay marriage. I am totally against it. I didn't heard that. He says marriage is between one man, one woman. What part of that is hard to follow.

People hear what they want to hear (especially when something or someone is "Lost in Translation" as Newt's very precise words often are, deliberately or by chance, often colored by misperceptions).

It was Newt Gingrich that originated and passed DOMA (Defense Of Marriage Act) when he was a Speaker of the House.

Republicans could have had "One Man One Woman Marriage" constitutional amendment long time ago, if they were as proactive / activist as Dems are. But after Newt left Congress they were too busy shaking down K Street and Wall Street, while blaming Newt for any problems they themselves were creating.

Instead of promoting "civil unions" or any other accommodations for "gay relationships" (other than marriage) which is what Gingrich is suggesting, they flatly deny that these "relationships" are legal, on moral/biblical grounds and basis. Without an "escape hatch" Dems are pushing for recognition of "gay marriage" preemptively in some states and it makes it so much more difficult to fight the "discrimination" charge.

Once again, Republicans - by not being proactive in their ideological goals - allowed Democrats to seize the initiative and the micro-issue which cost several percentage points and electoral votes and actually ceded the moral issue to them.

"Learning to stay on offense requires a strategic vision that enables you to constantly orient to the future, an operational system that allows you to be inside your opponent's decision cycle..." - Newt Gingrich

The talk about not "accepting" states' recognition of "gay marriage"? What has been done about it?

"You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" - Ayn Rand

Newt is being shot as a messenger, so next time Republicans / conservative may not even get the message, i.e., why bother telling people something they ignore and don't want to hear?

"Don't shoot the messenger, or you may never again be warned of impending danger"

"Being brilliant isn't always an advantage. Sometimes it's a cruel and unusual punishment"

(Cassandra by ABBA, 1982)

Sorry, Newt...

81 posted on 12/25/2012 3:24:37 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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