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Luxury condo building in B'klyn bans smoking by owners and tenants
New York Post ^ | December 23, 2012 | JULIA MARSH and BETH DEFALCO

Posted on 12/25/2012 7:52:24 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

It’s fine to flash the neighbors — just don’t have the indecency to smoke.

The condo board for one of Brooklyn’s most prestigious addresses has banned smoking throughout the glass-walled building — including in residents’ private apartments.

Condo owners at tony 1 Grand Army Plaza — a k a 1 Prospect Park, where residents are famous for parading around in the buff, giving parkgoers an eyeful through their floor-to-ceiling windows — will now face fines if they dare to light up in their multimillion-dollar pads.

The only area where residents can puff away is on their private terraces, which boast sweeping views of Prospect Park.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: brooklyn; housing; nyc; oufflist; propertyrigts; pufflist; smoking
What's next, no Big Gulps within the premises?
1 posted on 12/25/2012 7:52:34 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t smoke, but this is exactly why I don’t live in condos or anywhere there are homeowner associations. I like my freedom too much.


2 posted on 12/25/2012 8:15:42 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Fascism... Nobodies thinking themselves somebodies oppressing everybody.
3 posted on 12/25/2012 8:15:42 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If I lived in this dump I’d make it a point to smoke naked every single day.


4 posted on 12/25/2012 8:18:08 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Distantly related topic but houses occupied by smokers are a real estate agents nightmare. When buyers walk in, 70-80 walk right out if the smell of tobacco smoke has permeated the place. Nothing will remove it quickly.


6 posted on 12/25/2012 8:26:27 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

I sold a house and a condo very quickly for a good price each and I smoke.

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7 posted on 12/25/2012 8:29:07 PM PST by Mears
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To: muir_redwoods

I highly doubt this has anything to do with “resale” value and more about control....and stripping American citizens of their right to do something that’s completely LEGAL. I don’t give a crap if you smoke or not, this is W-R-O-N-G on multiple levels.


8 posted on 12/25/2012 8:31:58 PM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks)
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To: Mears

Yeah, our last apartment, we smoked in, but I am a neat freak.. our landlord could not belive that we smoked in there :)

My current home, I love to see peoples shocked face when I light up indoors.. the comments usually go “You smoke in here? I cant smell it” haha

Now, would I ever pay close to 10 million bucks for a condo/apartment in NYC and have them dictate my habits? LOL HECK no.


9 posted on 12/25/2012 8:32:23 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ConservativeStatement
where residents are famous for parading around in the buff,

Uh huh. I'm guessing single men who work as florists and interior decorators. So here's a dime ...

10 posted on 12/25/2012 8:39:15 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t want fat people in my building. They cause excessive wear on hallway carpeting and lobby furniture, and they create long term safety hazards by placing unnecessary strain on the elevators.

(I don’t live in a condo, but this one is easy)


11 posted on 12/25/2012 8:40:42 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I do smoke but if it was banned by the OWNER then that’s his perogative, but if it was by political fiat that’s a different thing.


12 posted on 12/25/2012 8:40:44 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: muir_redwoods

Yep. Who wants smoke wafting through the walls after paying big bucks for a condo? I don’t feel sorry for them.


13 posted on 12/25/2012 9:14:27 PM PST by plain talk
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To: umgud

I hear you. We just came back from a house-hunting expedition around Tampa. While going through the listings many looked good until we saw the homeowners assoc fees. We didn’t care if they were only $50/yr, we didn’t bother looking at those houses. I’ll be damned if some snowbird with a napoleon complex gives me a hard time because my grass is 1/8 inch too high or if I decide to wash my car in the driveway.


14 posted on 12/25/2012 10:12:35 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

After Christmas dinner, I smoked a Montecristo in my own back yard. Life can yet sometimes seem pretty good.


15 posted on 12/25/2012 10:36:49 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Mears
I sold a house and a condo very quickly for a good price each and I smoke.

The difference is obvious. You don't view reality through a neurotic lens.
Like when I used to smoke years ago, I had a totally sane woman at an outdoor performance come running screaming at me when I lit a cigarette. She had been standing more than 150 feet upwind of me at the time.

16 posted on 12/25/2012 11:38:09 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: ConservativeStatement

New York City.

You could not PAY me to live in that fascist hell.


17 posted on 12/26/2012 12:05:33 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: plain talk

Through the walls??? What sort of walls would allow smoke to penetrate them?


18 posted on 12/26/2012 12:13:21 AM PST by Bob
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To: ConservativeStatement

My family holds a rather large portfolio of multi-family real estate in several states and we have found that having smoke free buildings increases rental income by 20-25% and reduces maintainace and make ready costs by 15-20%.

All our buildings are some free and it is not because we are anti smoking zealots, but because we are capitalists.


19 posted on 12/26/2012 1:19:05 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: ElkGroveDan

20 posted on 12/26/2012 3:36:32 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!)
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To: umgud
"I don’t smoke, but this is exactly why I don’t live in condos or anywhere there are homeowner associations. I like my freedom too much."

Ditto that. I live on a private road that is gravel. Said road serves about a dozen families/homes, and gets "pot-holey" occasionally.

One homeowner started a move to get the road asphalt-covered, but the avenue he wanted to use was to establish a "neighborhood homeowners association", which, by Washington law, applies to a lot more than just the road problem. I told him that while I was quite willing to fork up my fair share to pay for the asphalting, that in no way would I support starting a homeowner's association.

I suggested we establish a contractual group agreement that applied solely to road construction and maintenance.

Fortunately, a majority of my neighbors rejected BOTH, so the road remains gravel, and we remain free (or at least relatively so).

21 posted on 12/26/2012 4:11:52 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

We also live on a dirt road and love it. half way down the road is sugar sand and that stops everyone using the street for a thru road. further back they do have an association just for the road but our street turned it down as I we can take care of our own pot holes without a yearly fee.


22 posted on 12/26/2012 4:20:17 AM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: ConservativeStatement

This is America so the owner can put any stipulations on his condos. No smokers is the same as no pets. You don’t like it, don’t live there.


23 posted on 12/26/2012 4:50:27 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I went over to visit my Aunt in the assisted living building she live in. It was a nasty day outside, cold and drizzling rain, and yet across the street there sat two elderly people in a wheel chair and a couple of others with umbrella’s standing in the rain smoking.

What a habit.


24 posted on 12/26/2012 4:59:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: bgill

The owner can put no smoking in the rules for NEW owners, but I can’t see how they could tell someone already living there that they can’t smoke.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 6:19:43 AM PST by conservaterian (NOW can we have a conservative candidate?????)
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To: bikerman
"We also live on a dirt road and love it. half way down the road is sugar sand and that stops everyone using the street for a thru road. further back they do have an association just for the road but our street turned it down as I we can take care of our own pot holes without a yearly fee.",

Well, I can't honestly say we love ON the dirt road. Our house faces the main drag, but our driveway parallels it, and actually exits onto the side street that "tees" off of it. The state has paved the side street back "just" the width of our driveway, so our little three-lot offshoot is already "asphalt all the way", but the rest is definitely dirt/gravel.

26 posted on 12/26/2012 9:43:07 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: JohnBrowdie
I don’t want fat people in my building. They cause excessive wear on hallway carpeting and lobby furniture, and they create long term safety hazards by placing unnecessary strain on the elevators.

I don't want skinny people in my building -- especially the pasty-white anemic-looking vegans. They are unhealthy and more prone to catch and incubate diseases and viruses and then pass them on to well-fed healthier people. There's also the issue of self-esteeem with all their hallway talk about small clothing sizes and going to the gym and rocking climbing on weekends, it really just makes those of us who are the victims of Excess Gravitational Force Disability (EGFD) feel bad about ourselves.

27 posted on 12/26/2012 10:37:53 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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