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The strange birth of NY’s gun laws
Clash Daily ^ | 12/26/12

Posted on 12/26/2012 10:29:02 AM PST by Impala64ssa

The father of New York gun control was Democratic city pol “Big Tim “Sullivan — a state senator and Tammany Hall crook, a criminal overseer of the gangs of New York.

In 1911 — in the wake of a notorious Gramercy Park blueblood murder-suicide — Sullivan sponsored the Sullivan Act, which mandated police-issued licenses for handguns and made it a felony to carry an unlicensed concealed weapon.

This was the heyday of the pre-Prohibition gangs, roving bands of violent toughs who terrorized ethnic neighborhoods and often fought pitched battles with police. In 1903, the Battle of Rivington Street pitted a Jewish gang, the Eastmans, against the Italian Five Pointers. When the cops showed up, the two underworld armies joined forces and blasted away, resulting in three deaths and scores of injuries. The public was clamoring for action against the gangs.

Problem was the gangs worked for Tammany. The Democratic machine used them as shtarkers (sluggers), enforcing discipline at the polls and intimidating the opposition. Gang leaders like Monk Eastman were even employed as informal “sheriffs,” keeping their turf under Tammany control.

The Tammany Tiger needed to rein in the gangs without completely crippling them. Enter Big Tim with the perfect solution: Ostensibly disarm the gangs — and ordinary citizens, too — while still keeping them on the streets.

In fact, he gave the game away during the debate on the bill, which flew through Albany: “I want to make it so the young thugs in my district will get three years for carrying dangerous weapons instead of getting a sentence in the electric chair a year from now.”/snip/

Ordinary citizens, on the other hand, were disarmed, which solved another problem: Gangsters had been bitterly complaining to Tammany that their victims sometimes shot back at them.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; gansters; guncontrol; secondamendment; tammanyhall
Funny how the most vociferous pro gun control/anti 2nd Amendment pols are among the most corrupt. Is their a reason for that? /s
1 posted on 12/26/2012 10:29:07 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa; Revolting cat!
NYC also has antiquated "cabaret" laws that restrict the playing of live music or even more than 3 people dancing in public.

The remake of Footloose shoulda been set in LA, SF, or NYC, not the "deep" south.

2 posted on 12/26/2012 10:57:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Impala64ssa

Excellent post.


3 posted on 12/26/2012 12:40:42 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"Gangsters had been bitterly complaining to Tammany that their victims sometimes shot back at them."

cry babies.

4 posted on 12/26/2012 3:24:49 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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