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To: verga; wintertime; sitetest; metmom; Fletcher J; Gabz

While I will freely admit I do not know the details of every school situation in all 50 states, several things about this statement do not stand up to basic logic.

Schools DO NOT ask children to be removed - this represents a loss in funding. Every school system I have ever been connected with has an alternative environment for students that do not fit in the normal environment for a number of reasons.

Secondly, there is no guidance counselor in the country with the power to remove a child - and I’ll go a step further and posit there are no principals either. Why? Back to the funding idea. For a student to be removed from a school system, the school board typically makes that decision and it’s never made lightly. Again...back to $$

Thirdly, this is only one side of the situation. Consider a child that has acted so badly that they are on the verge of being expelled - a dark mark indeed - I could see a parent removing them before the paperwork actually went through. Sort of a “I’m going to get fired, so I’ll quit first.”

Lastly, if a child is SO BAD that the local public school CANNOT handle them, I hope to goodness they are closely supervsed when in a casual setting such as a church. When children act out at school so much that they are on the verge of expulsion, there is a systemic problem with basic child rearing that shows up in multiple environments. If I had a young child of my own for which I was responsible, I would never, ever want them near a child that the parent claimed was ‘pushed out’ of the local public school.

That’s my view based on many years teaching, and teaching children with a variety of discipline problems. Sorry, your story leaks water like a sieve - most likely from the parents of the given children putting the most flattering spin on the story to protect their child. But someone with a higher education, a doctorate in a health field, and who has made frequent claims to be skilled in logic should see through the holes in that story without having them pointed out.


48 posted on 12/28/2012 12:33:41 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA
Schools DO NOT ask children to be removed - this represents a loss in funding.

All it takes is one case to prove that not true and I know of one.

The school kicked the kid out and the mother was forced to homeschool.

FWIW, this boy excelled at academics at home, which he did not in the public school, and graduated from a community college, instead of JD which is where he was headed while in the public school system.

52 posted on 12/28/2012 1:07:01 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Sorry, your story leaks water like a sieve - most likely from the parents of the given children putting the most flattering spin on the story to protect their child. But someone with a higher education, a doctorate in a health field, and who has made frequent claims to be skilled in logic should see through the holes in that story without having them pointed out.

I am not lying.

FReepmail....

53 posted on 12/28/2012 1:11:02 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Schools DO NOT ask children to be removed
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Well....You are right, in a way.

The children I was referring to were difficult for all involved, parents, teachers, principals. Some was due to poor parenting practices, other reasons were because of educational malpractice on the part of the school, and nearly all the kids had varying degrees of ADD and ADHD.

The school staff strongly suggested that homeschooling might be the better option, and given that the child was most truant anyway, the parent took the path of least resistance. The feeling among the parents was that the schooling staff were glad to be rid of these kids.

Among fellow homeschoolers, we called these kids, “push-outs”, and we found it irritating the the were found among the county's “homeschooling” statistic. These kids weren't being homeschooled. They were a mess and their parents were, too.

61 posted on 12/28/2012 5:17:13 PM PST by wintertime
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To: SoftballMominVA

**None** of these kids went to church. If the parent couldn’t get them out of bed to go to school, they were unlikely to motivate the child to go to church.

Re: Getting fired

Yep! There was some of that, too.

Re: Not wanting other children around these kids

Yep! That was the case. These kids didn’t show up at church meeting or activities. Even though mighty efforts were made by **mature adults** to reach out to these kids in fellowship, I never knew any that responded. Some went on to serve prison terms and, again. fellowship was maintained by those mature members of the congregation who were solid in their faith.


62 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:42 PM PST by wintertime
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