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Obama Orders Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers
weeklystandard.com ^ | 12/28/12 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 12/28/2012 10:45:48 AM PST by ColdOne

President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.

According to disclosure forms, Biden made a cool $225,521 last year. After the pay increase, he'll now make $231,900 per year.

Members of Congress, from the House and Senate, also will receive a little bump, as their annual salary will go from $174,000 to 174,900. Leadership in Congress, including the speaker of the House, will likewise get an increase.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; federalemployees; federalspending; fedpayraise; payincrease; taxandspend

1 posted on 12/28/2012 10:45:54 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

what about the little people Obama?

Gotta give all the government workers a raise to offset your tax hike when we go off the cliff eh?


2 posted on 12/28/2012 10:47:31 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: ColdOne

Socialism. Equal parts dumb and evil, in a blender.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 10:48:15 AM PST by lurk
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To: ColdOne

there will be no “coming up for air” allowed.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 10:50:29 AM PST by stanne
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To: ColdOne

just enough to cover the tax increase?


5 posted on 12/28/2012 10:51:37 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: ColdOne

Fiscal cliff? How about a little bump in pay for us all?!

haaaaaaaa! haaaaaa!

(Who wants to bet this gets buried in the MSM like a cat buries a turd?)


6 posted on 12/28/2012 10:52:31 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: lurk

New tagline.

Thanks.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 10:53:23 AM PST by null and void (Socialism: Equal parts dumb and evil, in a blender.)
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To: ColdOne

Give pay increases to the only segment of the work force that has increased under his rule. While they should be happy that they have a job, the rest of us who have had to take pay cuts or have lost our jobs now have to reward them! I think that the President on down through Congress should have to take a fifty percent cut in pay and benefits until this country is back on track. If they were employed by a private business they would have all been fired for incompetence.


8 posted on 12/28/2012 10:53:33 AM PST by Mastador1
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To: cableguymn

Government workers don’t pay taxes..................


9 posted on 12/28/2012 10:57:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: ColdOne

My Dad used to tell me “It doesn’t pay to be an idiot”. He was wrong.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 10:58:13 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: ColdOne
Any doubt now what Boehner will do? I have been saying this from the start of that Fiscal cliff fiasco, as soon as it is passed they will all get a pay raise/rewards. Sickening.

This will include the Supreme Court and other Federal judges. Any doubt now of they make their decisions?

11 posted on 12/28/2012 10:58:23 AM PST by annieokie
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To: ColdOne

How the hell can he do that???


12 posted on 12/28/2012 11:01:08 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: ColdOne

Loyality Bonus...


13 posted on 12/28/2012 11:06:29 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ColdOne

Those chuckleheads in Washington, D.C. never surprise me.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 11:06:42 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: ColdOne
I am surprised that the President can raise federal pay with an Executive Order. It doesn't sound right unless there was something in the pay freeze legislation that permitted it.

This is a sop to the federal employee unions that overwhelmingly supported Obama.

15 posted on 12/28/2012 11:07:34 AM PST by kabar
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To: ColdOne

And the MSM will never let the public know. This communists empire has America in the toilet and we may never get out of the flush.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 11:09:58 AM PST by Logical me
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To: ColdOne

Yippee! Spend! Take! Steal Some More! Spend More! Take More! Steal Some More! Yippee!!!!!!!!

Happy New Year!

Wheeeeeeeeee!


17 posted on 12/28/2012 11:13:37 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Red Badger
Government workers don’t pay taxes..................

That is not correct.

18 posted on 12/28/2012 11:15:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Red Badger

Government workers don’t pay taxes? Where did you hear that?


19 posted on 12/28/2012 11:16:50 AM PST by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: Lazamataz

“Government workers don’t pay taxes..................
That is not correct.”

It all depends on how you look at it. It is really nothing more than a shell game. They are paid with tax dollars from the actual workers of the country. The “payment” of taxes by government workers is a silly little accounting trick where they government pays them a tad less since it was all tax money to begin with.

They pay taxes from their share of the tax money they collect as salaries.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 11:21:58 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: ColdOne

thanx for suquin’ m’dik


21 posted on 12/28/2012 11:24:30 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: kabar
I am surprised that the President can raise federal pay with an Executive Order. It doesn't sound right unless there was something in the pay freeze legislation that permitted it.

You have it backwards. The pay increases are in legislation -- the pay freeze was by executive order.

22 posted on 12/28/2012 11:25:59 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: tayper

I’m waiting for him to try raising the debt ceiling by Executive order.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 11:26:13 AM PST by rbg81
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To: FerociousRabbit

I see what you are getting at, but they still pay taxes.


24 posted on 12/28/2012 11:28:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: ColdOne

This will assure Obama that ALL congresscritters will do his bidding.

Oh wait, the PUBS protested vehemently.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 11:34:05 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: ColdOne
According to disclosure forms, Biden made a cool $225,521 last year. After the pay increase, he'll now make $231,900 per year.

Great! Now he can donate an extra dollar to charity.
26 posted on 12/28/2012 11:39:45 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: cableguymn
So, Plugs gets a 2.8% raise and the Federal Workers get 0.5% raise. WOW, talk about “fairness”. Just to add insult to injury, the 0.5% is less than $ 35/month BEFORE current tax rates.
27 posted on 12/28/2012 11:40:49 AM PST by OHPatriot (It's time to party like it's 1096 AD.)
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To: Lazamataz; Captain PJ

All government workers, at every level, city, county, state and federal, are paid with funds taken from the private sector.

Yes, they go through the motions, filing 1040’s, paying sales taxes, real estate taxes, fuel taxes, etc., but that money they use in doing so came from the public treasury to begin with, so there is no net increase in the treasury, simply putting back in what was taken out previously.

Extrapolate to 100% of the population working for the government in some function. Who, then, would pay the taxes with which to pay the government workers?

Only through the hard work and efforts of a private individual or corporation can the government coffers be filled with tax dollars to redistribute to their workers.

They get a salary and their paycheck stubs show that they ‘paid’ some amount of various taxes, but in reality that money is just not removed from the treasury and given to the worker. They actually ‘paid’ nothing........


28 posted on 12/28/2012 11:41:24 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Lazamataz

“I see what you are getting at, but they still pay taxes.”

Yes, taxes are withheld and paid by government employees but there is never a net revenue gain by taxing government employees, no matter how much they pay in taxes (unlike the actual working class).

When I was a lad I remember that government employees paid no taxes because their salaries were nothing but tax money to begin with so it was senseless. I think that changed in the early 70s.


29 posted on 12/28/2012 11:43:36 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: kabar

I am surprised that the President can raise federal pay with an Executive Order.

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This EO cancels out an earlier EO of 2010 that Obama issued that installed the pay freeze. He not setting pay increases just allowing the existing legislation to act as enacted.

Just trace them back to follow the sequence.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 11:58:57 AM PST by deport
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To: ColdOne

And here they go as I warned. Boehner and his aides refuse theirs yet also?


31 posted on 12/28/2012 12:09:08 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: ColdOne
So let me see if I have this straight ... we're going to borrow MORE money from China to cover pay raises for excess federal employees?

What alternate universe did they escape from?

32 posted on 12/28/2012 12:16:10 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Red Badger
All government workers, at every level, city, county, state and federal, are paid with funds taken from the private sector....

I suppose you could say that about every private company with a government contract too.

33 posted on 12/28/2012 12:29:43 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: ColdOne

Vote buying.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 12:33:15 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Thanks for the clarification. There has been legislation freezing federal salaries. I know that from personal experience.


35 posted on 12/28/2012 12:36:00 PM PST by kabar
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To: ColdOne
For those who remember the old Soviet Union, it was a grim place — at least for average citizens. But not so for those in government. Contrary to the official ideals of equality and a classless society that the ruling communist regime espoused, the USSR created a privileged class of party members inside government — the nomenklatura.

This semipermanent bureaucracy earned higher incomes, got better health care, ate better food and had greater job security than average Russians, the much-despised proletarians. Today, our bloated federal government seems, in significant ways, to be creating this same dynamic.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528809

BECAUSE THEY’RE ENTITLED TO ALL THAT

36 posted on 12/28/2012 12:37:58 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: seowulf

In a way, yes. That is also why ‘stimulus’ packages never work.

Taking money from the private sector, then putting it into highways, bridges, and even military arms does not stimulate the economy. Japan spent ten years in the 90’s trying to stimulate their economy doing those things and it did not work.....................


37 posted on 12/28/2012 12:50:09 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: cableguymn

I see he kept Biden’s salary under $250,000


38 posted on 12/28/2012 12:51:47 PM PST by jersey117
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To: cableguymn

Why do we even have a Congress anymore?

Obama shows more and more that he does not need them to run this country.


39 posted on 12/28/2012 1:03:04 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: tayper

It appears that he can do most anything he wants.

We do not have a Congress any more. They just show up to get their paycheck. Obama is KING.


40 posted on 12/28/2012 1:05:44 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ColdOne
"Obama Orders Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers"

Absolutely...they are really doing standup job. Thank Heavens for EO's.../sarc

41 posted on 12/28/2012 1:23:14 PM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: Mastador1

BTTT.


42 posted on 12/28/2012 1:25:30 PM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: faithhopecharity

BTTT.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 1:27:36 PM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: ColdOne

I didn’t get a raise. The only thing that got a raise around this house was the 62% increase in after cliff taxes on a this [] much over the poverty line income.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 2:01:03 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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