[kindred]

Upside down and backwards is your opinion. The religious Christians generally have not accepted the fact that America will be a lesser nation and of little influence when God sends the anti christ, aka the beast, to begin the tribulation the religious do not believe will happen at all.Israel will be a pariah nation and He will defend it from all their enemies during the 7 years of tribulation after the rapture of the body of Christ, the true church.

Prophecy teaches of Christ's second advent and 1000 year millennial rule and yet so many avowed Christians do not read the prophets of the Scriptures and believe that Israel is replaced by the church. These are religious people much as the pharisees were.

[Longbow1969]

kindred, you have no idea at all when the end times will be. None. That time could be thousands of years distant. You have no more idea when the end will be than frauds like Harold Camping - and you shouldn’t be suggesting that you do.

Human history is littered with times of great upheaval, world war, etc. This country has even had, arguable, a far more socialistic President than we do now - and FDR was elected four times and fundamentally changed this country more than Obama will probably ever do.

So your original post mostly seemed to just be one big complaint that FR wasn’t religious enough, and now you’ve gone on to claim the end is near when most reasonable people know you haven’t got a clue.