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To: kindred

This is one of the current modern mysteries that I simply cannot understand.

In the effort to try and understand a mystery that may not yet have an answer, there is a default tendency to simply blame Christians for “not being godly enough” or for doing this or that “wrong” or “not committed enough”. I think there are a lot of people who are genuinely committed to the cause of Christ and who are committed Christ followers.

On some level the Holy Spirit has to lead people via His Spirit and, frankly, I have not seen evidence of this, or at least to any significant degree.

I can only hazard a spiritual guess that the Lord is using this time to bring souls to Himself in places other than the West. It appears that remedying the plagues we have collectively brought upon ourselves is not of importance to the Lord.

I find great solace in Psalm 37 where these things will continue - and decline - but on balance we will be spared. Not that we won’t be impacted, but those who hold fast will make it through.

My flesh wants to make a stand. I’m not sure that’s in the Lord’s plans as he seemingly has not laid that on the hearts of others or has raised up leaders.

On one hand, I feel like I’m flailing about and not being useful. On the other hand, I am open and listening to hear and do what the Lord commands.

The bottom line to me seems to be that whatever actions are necessary must come from the urging of His Holy Spirit. This may yet come, but I do not yet see it. To blanketly blame believers for not being committed enough is simplistic and, in my opinion, not wholly accurate.

There are many who long for the leading and moving of the Holy Spirit. It is up to the Lord to prompt the hearts of men unto action.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:11 PM PST by Obadiah (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: Obadiah

Biblical prophecy teaches of the consolation of Christ and it may or may not be the last generation before the return of Christ. Yet, Israel being back in the land for the 2nd time as God has done warns us that it may be the last generation before the coming of Christ, the lamb of God, as King of kings and Lord of lords.

Titus 2:2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 5:49:58 PM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: Obadiah
My flesh wants to make a stand. I’m not sure that’s in the Lord’s plans as he seemingly has not laid that on the hearts of others or has raised up leaders.

On one hand, I feel like I’m flailing about and not being useful. On the other hand, I am open and listening to hear and do what the Lord commands.

I hear you. There are some in some branches of Evangelical Christianity who claim that they are the new prophets and apostles but I have yet to see any significant grassroots movement. It seems to be going no where fast.

53 posted on 12/29/2012 1:44:46 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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