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London could make EU “unravel”
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| 28.12.12 @ 09:12
| Honor Mahony
Posted on 12/30/2012 4:23:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Yes, how terrible: pull powers back to where they belong and not be a vassal. Nobody should ever do that . . .
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posted on
12/30/2012 4:23:27 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
Are the Brits chafing at the idea of being economically colonized?
(Irony is so ironic.)
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posted on
12/30/2012 4:34:36 AM PST
by
shibumi
(Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
To: Olog-hai
Any large organization becomes coopted by special interests that are not necessarily the members original purpose or in the members own interests. The EU is a voluntary Soviet style empire. It has a universal currency that is not in the interests of most of the individual states. It is seeking a military. What would the EU masters do with their military if a state decided to leave? Intimidate? Occupy? The EU was a very bad, Communist idea. It will end as the Soviet Empire ended.
To: Olog-hai; All
Europe and the UK would be greatly helped with the break up of the EU
Free Trade Communist Globalism has failed. The EU has demonstrated this.
However...we still have fools on this side of the Atlantic who keep pushing for a EU for North America.....with NAFTA and the planned North American Union. Economic stupudity will be the ruin of this planet
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posted on
12/30/2012 4:55:59 AM PST
by
SeminoleCounty
(Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
To: Olog-hai
That sounds like a good thing for British people and for European people. It might also set a nice example for the people of Texas, Utah, Wyoming, and the other 47 (or so) states on this side of the pond. The only losers are the ruling class liberal elites, and I don’t care if they have to start working productively for a living too.
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posted on
12/30/2012 4:57:17 AM PST
by
Pollster1
(Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
To: Gen.Blather
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:14:00 AM PST
by
preacher
(Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
To: Olog-hai
A loose federation of free states, formed for their mutual benefit, works if they restrict themselves to a simple set of rules to promote commerce.
A central increasingly heavy-handed body that constantly makes more and more and more laws and regulations every day, that everybody else have to follow, it does not work so well, does it?
It's expensive, it grows and the power corrupts.
Same in US as in Europe.
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:20:51 AM PST
by
BitWielder1
(Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
To: preacher
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:20:51 AM PST
by
preacher
(Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
To: preacher
Garage=Farage typo
Of course it is, he is from the UK, which means he is Nigel Motor House.
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:23:07 AM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
To: shibumi
Definitely ironic ~ the very masters of economic colonization, colonized economically by, of all things, Central and Eastern Europeans and Pakistanis.
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:27:15 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Gen.Blather
Communist?
As I recall it the current EU was established to stabilize industrial development between Northern and Southern Europe and create something akin to universal European citizenship with a bill of rights (as Europeans can understand such things).
Then there was this little bitty part even Americans don't usually understand here ~ the uniform commercial code. We have one. It's an interstate compact. Europe decided to use the existing structure in Brussels to create their own European uniform commercial code with top down force.
About 99% of EU cultural battles center on that code. The US, by avoiding top down force has no cultural battles with our version.
The result is the folks who used to manufacture volcanic goat cheese in France moved to California ~ lots of French goats there and volcanic ash!
They feel safe for the moment.
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:34:58 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Gen.Blather
French Goat Cheese from Valencay is still made in France, but it's dusted with charcoal ash. The real stuff is made exclusively in California and is duted with authentic volcanic dust, and boy does California have a lot of that.
As American herds expand due to a new found like for goats and goat byproducts we'll see more French niche cheese makers move here to escape the EU standards that dictate that food must not knowingly cause cancer or damge your liver.
The fact the French let the EU interfere with cheese production is a sign of just how corrupt the EU has become.
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:42:58 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Olog-hai
London could make EU unravel From what I read, a strong breeze could do that.
Blame the British? Are we certain the author didn't misspell "Bush"?
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posted on
12/30/2012 5:43:03 AM PST
by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: Olog-hai
Herman Van Rompuy is such a gray man empty suit, that I got quite a laugh when somebody got a video of him making a blah-blah speech, while sitting, with most of his mouth concealed by the microphone. And replaced whatever he was saying with the audio of “I Like Big Butts”, by Sir Mix-a-Lot.
To: muawiyah
The EU was
always meant to be a political union. First clause of the preamble of the
1957 Treaty of Rome (which formed the European Economic Community) says
DETERMINED to lay the foundations of an ever-closer union among the peoples of Europe . . . and you can read the rest, including stuff about eliminat(ing) the barriers which divide Europe and so on. The Treaty of Maastricht established the social market economy as the uniform economy for all its member states.
And back in 2007,
Vladimir Bukovsky (a very famous Soviet dissident) compared the EU successfully to the USSR, and even said the EU was worse than the USSR in many respects.
Dont say that Americans do not understand the EU. It is Europeans for the most part who do not understand it, even though its intent is more than transparent. So yeah . . . communist.
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posted on
12/30/2012 8:25:45 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: shibumi
I do not find that funny.
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posted on
12/30/2012 8:29:25 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Mr. Europe is
still sexy? Never mind thinking of Europe (they always conflate Europe and the European Union) as a club (which implies the phrase old boys in front of the word). Barroso already called it an
empire, which prior to 2007 was a
verboten term, and it is not an innocuous term.
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posted on
12/30/2012 8:39:52 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
Depnds on how you define communist. Having spent a bit of time patroling the border ~ aka 'the iron curtain' ~ and combining that personal experience with my knowledge acquired elsewhere over the years, it seems to me the Western Europeans have not been nor do they intend to ever be communist.
BTW, statements of purpose are not controlling documents ~ you need to look elsewhere for them.
And comparisons of the EU to the former USSR are not new ~ always somebody coming up with some way of discrediting something else by drawing a simile up.
Since the earliest days the USSR operated under the hypothecations of Democratic Centrism. The EU doesn't, but when it comes to quality control systems and a universal commercial code, a bit of Eastern and Central European authoritarianism has crept in. This is exactly why the best you can get in Europe is 'charcoal ash' goat cheese ~ the 'volcanic dust' goat cheese makers having relocated to America.
I really do think you can read the entrails of Europe by checking out the French cheese markets!
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posted on
12/30/2012 9:09:37 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
I define “communist” as how they all have behaved historically.
And the EU does imitate the USSR’s democratic centralism so-called. Read what Bukovsky wrote. This did not “creep in” from the east but has been there from the beginningand all you need to do is read the treaties to see that.
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posted on
12/30/2012 9:12:36 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
The day I start taking Soviet Dissident's pronunciamentos as having any sort of utility regarding Western Europe will be the day after the end of time.
You have no idea how isolated even the top echelon of the USSR were.
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posted on
12/30/2012 9:15:14 AM PST
by
muawiyah
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