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To: billorites

A society needs to insist that any man who fathers a child, by any means, is liable for the support of that child. The covenant is between the child and the father, not the father and the mother.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 6:06:46 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

If I were on a jury that’s how I would see it. The child never agreed to relinquish a relationship with his father or to forgo the fathers obligations. Men know they’re donating sperm for the purpose of reproduction. They want children without responsibility for them. I don’t buy it.


15 posted on 12/30/2012 6:40:37 AM PST by Varda
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Thank you.

But it goes far beyond financial support. Anyone who co-creates a child has a common identity with that child and robbing said child of that identity should be a crime.

Beyond that, a co-creator owes the child more than money. Creating a child is a sacred bond. Breaking that bond is an abominable act committed against the child. (This goes for both co-creators).

Notice in the story and the laws, there is no mention of the child’s rights in any sense. This stems from our societal belief of childern having no value. They are disposable.


18 posted on 12/30/2012 6:46:45 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
A society needs to insist that any man who fathers a child, by any means, is liable for the support of that child. The covenant is between the child and the father, not the father and the mother.

I disagree. It traditionally had been the case that only children conceived in wedlock were due support. It was a big incentive for women insist on marriage. Then in the early 1970's, the Supreme Court invalidated those state illegitimacy laws.

This is one factor that helped the downward slide that started in the 1960's and 70's.

28 posted on 12/30/2012 7:42:10 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
A society needs to insist that any man who fathers a child, by any means, is liable for the support of that child. The covenant is between the child and the father, not the father and the mother.

And if a husband and wife were unable to conceive and a sperm donor was used, then do you feel the biological father is responsible?

29 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:59 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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