Zero's ZERO tolerance applies
Posted on 12/31/2012 9:25:35 PM PST by Kaslin
I’m against it.
We should arm principles and existing school officials. We don’t need new government employees.
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Yeah, BRING THE TSA/CPA UNIONS into our school... another way of turning common sense into a rape the kiddies boondoggle, keeping pesky parents out... I can see that happening...
It’s why they were for it and now against it etc...
Let the Carnival continue and make the kiddies participate in it, Sesame street style with the gays and convicts having more say than “parents with emotional clinging chivalrous narcissistic conflicts of interests”... (sarc off)
I can see the BS happening indeed...
Zero's ZERO tolerance applies
Zero's ZERO tolerance applies. We cannot spoil their drunkenness priviledges, him and bohener stupid, or whatever the frack their names are.
lets examine this a bit more closely.
For as long as I been on Free Republic I have heard the mantra that "ALL" public school employees are money grubbing, gun hating liberal, union thugs, too stupid to hold real jobs, that engage in serial child abuse. (Let me know if I left any thing off)
There have been threads recently comparing public schools to prisons and now it is suddenly okay to arm these miscreant dregs of society to save the lives of children!
In early March of 1999, right after Columbine several other teachers and myself were approached about being armed at our school during the day. Each of us had CCW permits, either military and /or security training. We met with the building principal, Asst. Superintendent and Superintendent.
The very first question we asked was "What about liability, and how will we be covered?"
Now keep this in mind: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA, I JUST THINK SOME QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED FIRST.
1) Liability insurance: Will this be provided by the district, union (if there is one), employee?
2) Training: Who will provide it? Who will pay for it (See #1)? Who will be required to attend? What constitutes successful completion of training? How often will they be required to re certify and who will pay for the re certification (see#1)? What about the building official that just can't bear the idea of carrying a weapon, much less in school? Should that person be fired, demoted, replaced, transferred, lose their credentials?
3) Weapons: What will they carry? Who decides what they will carry? Will they carry concealed or open? Will the have the option of long arms? What capacity magazine? Who pays for the weapon and ammunition (see #1)? Where will the weapons be stored? How will they be stored? Who will have access to them?
These are jsut a few question right off the top of my head.
Remember: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA, I JUST THINK SOME QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED FIRST.
Metmom you might want to put this on your ARTH ping list.
Regarding insurance the issue of indemnification is just as important.
Insurance has limits, exclusions and all sorts of subrogation issues. Whose insurance is primary and will you have to sue your district to be defended by their carrier?
Stopping a killer is primary but governmental bodies don’t like to share their protections.
Don’t worry comrade. This is all for the best.
The kids need to learn to have the government enforced police presence in their lives watching over them, all for their own good, of course.
What better way to prepare minds to accept a police state than to start in schools with impressionable young minds and fearful parents.
It’s all for the children, you see........
In another generation, nobody will know what freedom is.
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At first glance, the “COPS in Schools” doesn’t seem as if it is designed for armed security police as much as it is a community outreach program. “Police are human, too!!”
Yes, there would be police in and around the schools at times, but the seems to be acting more in a PR position rather than full-time ‘at the doors’ security personnel.
Let me know if I have this wrong.
I was only referring to the issue of guns.
Principals and teachers, etc, have the right to defend themselves and be armed. That is my only point.
The idea of putting POLICE there instead of allowing individuals their constitutional rights is the wrong message for those kids.
Overall, I’d like to abolish government schools, of course.
Not a fan of the NRA nor of militarized government institutions.
The issue for me is mental health and treatment of persons with mental health problems. If it is not safe to allow them access to firearms then they also should not have access to knives or cars, and should be under confinement until that changes.
That being said, I have a lot of questions about what happened at Newtown. I saw a CNN clip the other day in which one of the “parents” was smiling and laughing until he approached the podium to make a statement, and then suddenly his demeanor changed to sorrow, sadness etc. It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen. Has anyone else seen this clip, and if so, what did you make of it?
Your opionion is myopic, if you just think you can blithly say "Arm the Principals...."
I am saying allow armed individuals who have the righ to be there to be armed, as per the second amendment before we decide to keep the indivuals disarmed and add cops.
If we fixed all the other crap first, I doubt we would even be having such a conversation
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wintertime
What better way to prepare minds to accept a police state than to start in schools with impressionable young minds and fearful parents.
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The schools already resemble prisons both inside and out. And,...Indeed!....What better way to prepare the people for tyranny than to treat them as prisoners when they are children.
One problem will be that once the schools are secure, the bad guys will go for softer targets. Why? because people are depraved and evil and want to kill and hurt.
I don’t know if anyone remembers it, but Pres Clinton wanted to put cops with guns in all the schools back in the early 90’s That might have been a pretty good idea. But no one liked it then.. Now we are all about it?
Yeah, we live in the moment here in the good ol’ USA
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