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To: freeangel

frustration doesn’t begin to describe my feelings at the betrayal by Senate Republicans.

What can we do?


7 posted on 01/01/2013 7:08:08 AM PST by Babashane
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To: Babashane
Fight the debt ceiling rise. Keep what tax cuts we can. Tie up the debt ceiling increase to implementation of the Paul-Mac Penney Plan, elimination of baseline budgeting, and implementing continuous process improvement within the government. Look, this wasn't going to work out for any conservative. And pubbies never, ever, put in a sunset clause in a tax cut bill. Senator McCain, why did you join with the dims to put in the sunset clause?
8 posted on 01/01/2013 7:18:36 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Babashane
Republican tax and spending policy is completely incoherent, and they are too stupid to even see it.

Tax rates are not a policy issue. Repeat after me: TAX RATES ARE NOT A POLICY ISSUE.

The policy issue is SPENDING, or, more broadly, the size of the Federal government.

Tax rates are the derivative of the policy issue.

The Republicans (the ones who can get themselves elected, anyway) now stand exposed as complete fraudsters, because they SUPPORT a $3 trillion+ Federal government (in fact, their desired spending is only a little less than Obama's), while making a moral issue out of collecting only slightly more than $2 trillion in revenue.

This is ass-backwards. IF the GOP believes that collecting no more that $2.2 trillion in taxes is their central, moral issue, THEN THEY MUST PROPOSE A $2.2 TRILLION (or less) BUDGET. They can't do this, because they either believe in a $3+++ trillion Federal government or know that if they advocated for a $1.6 trillion cut they would lose their precious jobs.

Oddly, Obama is the consistent one here - he wants a $4 trillion state, and wants the rich to be plundered to pay for it.

The poor stupid Republicans have no spending policy, no size of the state policy, no serious cuts to propose, and they are trying to substitute taxation as a policy - but it's not working anymore.

9 posted on 01/01/2013 7:31:17 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: Babashane

Nothing.

Represenative government is a failure.

Government itself is a failure.

when a person gives another person power, that power will be abused.

That is all.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 9:15:49 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Babashane

There is no remedy at the ballot box anymore. That is over. By thinking that there is, we just kick the can down the road for 4 more years. That should be obvious to all of us now.

Sitting around waiting for the next election cycle is a joke.

Lindseed Graham has chimed in now telling the House to pass the Senate Fiscal fiasco and save their powder for the debt ceiling battle.

I laughed my butt off. What powder? The DC GOP are just powderless powder puffs. Just wait for “the big debt ceiling battle”. Then we will be told to save your powder for the “gun grab battle”.

We all know how that will work out. LOL


13 posted on 01/01/2013 9:24:57 AM PST by dforest
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