Posted on 01/01/2013 11:01:34 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Congress last night finally passed a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, as critics attacked the Republican party for giving in and allowing tax hikes on wealthy Americans in return for minimal spending cuts.
President Obama was in a triumphant mood as he addressed the nation after the vote on Capitol Hill, even winking at photographers before flying back to Hawaii to resume his vacation.
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There isn’t going to be a debt ceiling debate. Our Kenyan dictator pretty much cleared that up as well.
Never again will I spend one penny towards the support of ANY REPUBLICAN. It is time to dump that so called “party” for one that represents the people and not themselves.
LLS
“TEA PARTY”! “TEA PARTY”! “TEA PARTY”!
You are joking , are you not?
What have the Republicans done except to give in to obama.
My question is, why continue to elect Republicans?
This is the money quote.
The fiscal cliff situation presented Republicans with a disagreeable choice between two unpleasant options. We can debate tactical decisions and roads not taken 'till the cows come home. But since we had no way to force Obama and the Senate dems to deal constructively on spending cuts, this was a pick your poison situation. Taxes were going up either way, and Obama (IMHO) actually wanted to go over the cliff so he could pocket even greater revenues while blaming Republicans for the next four years for the consequences. The issue was how to limit the damage, both economic and political. I would have voted against the Senate bill, but I understand the calculation on the other side.
We're now out of a tactical trap and steaming up to the real deal, the debt limit increase, in a matter of weeks. His Excellency Emperor Barack I of Chicago is already staking out his position. He now says that he does not deign to entertain discussion with Republicans about the debt limit. He asserts that projected baseline spending is sacrosanct, and the moral and legal equivalent of debt. That is, future spending plans are the equivalent of accrued obligations.
When last we visited the debt limit, there was some discussion on the left about challenging the constitutionality of the debt limit. More recently, Obama's negotiating offer in the fiscal cliff melodrama included a demand that Congress remove the debt limit statutorily and give the President unchecked borrowing power.
If Obama sticks with a call for statutory change, fine: we can debate that, and vote it down. If he asserts a unilateral power to ignore the debt limit, we are a matter of weeks away from a constitutonal crisis.
I know that people need to vent, and I will magnanimously allow 24 hours more for ankle biting Republicans who made an arguably wrong tactical call yesteday, when caught in a very unpleasant trap. But 24 hours is far more than enough time to waste on that. The fiscal cliff was a warmup. The real battle is about to begin.
Leadership elections, you say? Fine. I would ask John Boehner and Mitch McConnell, and any other contenders for the top jobs, what they will do if the President asserts dictatorial control over borrowing.
The difference between the fiscal cliff and the debt limit situation is simple: this time, we have the bigger club. We can live with a lot less government for a lot longer than can the dems. But we have to seize the high ground politically. The House Republicans need to pass their default debt limit/spending cut package sooner rather than later, and above all avoid geting caught in more backroom deals at midnight. Pass a package as a default option, and offer to negoiate in good faith on any other propsal that the democrats bring forward under regular order ... and nothing more.
If the dems won't deal, we'll hit the fiscal cliff and borrowing authority with lapse. Since we're now borrowing 40% of everything we spend, this would be very bad. A disaster, in fact. It will be essential, once Social Security checks start getting delayed, food stamps disappear, and Medicare and Medicaid stop paying bills, that the Republicans have already passed legislation to keep the government operating. It must be clear that the shutdown is Obama's doing.
So let's get over the ankle biting fast. Can we play a move or two ahead, for a change? And plan far enough ahead to seize the high ground?
Meant to say, if the dems don’t deal we’ll hit the borrowing limit, not the fiscal cliff.
Yeah, well... We know what's going to happen. Don't we?
There was no “wink”. It was a finger in our eye. I wouldn’t feel badly if his plane goes down. I’d chalk it up to karma.
$1 in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes.
Ok. Then lets only send back that 1 for 41 when we file our taxes.
If thats all they can afford, then it should be fair that we aren’t expected to
pay our full share either.
I have to admit that Obama makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur when it comes to politics.
Thats because the MSM has sunk to new lows in terms of real coverage.
e.g. Watch to see if we hear anything about “ not raising your taxes 1 thin
dime” when it comes to the payroll tax hike that affects all of the now defined
middle class.....
.... I have re-read my remarks and am still at a loss to see were there was any name calling by me. And indeed if you did take any offense at was said by me ... it was purely unintentional but was rather meant as a device for learning.
However .... It should be pointed out that the fear of being called names may well be at the very crux of what gives the opponent the power to destroy his.
.... And sadly .... he knows this .... and does use it to his advantage.
The Speaker of the House would do well to learn this point .... before the end of this free nation, as we know it, is completed by his opponent.
I swear I will never visit Hawaii ever, havn’t been there in all of my 56 years, I doubt I ever will.
I am pretty certain the boner is incapable of real leadership. He has never exhibited real leadership in his life... he has risen to his level by compromise, lying and surrender. I certainly hope we get a new Speaker.
LLS
LLS
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