Posted on 01/02/2013 6:03:26 AM PST by Kaslin
Unfortunately, in a post 9/11 world, these measures are necessary.
Sorry, but these measures won’t be used against “terrorists” - they will be used against Americans.
George Soros will be happy. We may a well burn the constitution.
That line of thinking leads to:
Unfortunately, in a post 9/11 world [repealing the 1st Amendment] these measures are necessary.
Unfortunately, in a post 9/11 world [repealing the 2nd Amendment] these measures are necessary.
Unfortunately, in a post 9/11 world [suspending Ex Post Facto] these measures are necessary.
Unfortunately, in a post 9/11 world [declaring martial law] these measures are necessary.
But the terrorists are working on American soil, so we have to have these tools available to law enforcement here.
“”””But the terrorists are working on American soil, so we have to have these tools available to law enforcement here.”””
The terrorists won, they now have their king living in the white house. It was easier than bin laden thought it would be.
I think, perhaps, you are on the wrong forum. The forum who wishes to give up their security for safety is a little left of here...
Somehow all of that went by the wayside when Bush was in office. So it goes.
These measures are not necessary, they are opportunistic, preying on the sensitivity of good people like Wolfie here, steps of over reaching tyranny.
Sadly, both my AZ senators voted to increase the power of the state toward Soviet style strangling. I had hoped at least Kyle could remember that little inconvenience we used to call The Constitution.
“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Thomas Jefferson
Horse pucky. For the most part, we already know where they are. Nobody will touch them just like Bush did nothing about open training camps all over the country. Terrorists are most useful toward getting soft-headed fools to allow the government to continue to breach OUR liberties. This is the beginning of taking action on thought-crime. It will detect who is resisting the illegal encroachment of Federal power. It will not be used on terrorists.
These measures are circumventing the Constitutional rights of AMERICANS. We pretend it doesn’t matter.
We criticize China, Cuba, etc. and other nations for lack of rights. We are becoming them. The remaining differences appear to be a matter of time.
>> Sorry, but these measures wont be used against terrorists - they will be used against Americans.
Bingo! Look at the “anti-drug” property confiscation laws.
BTW, here’s a handy way of dealing with terrorists using laws already on the books:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3pRlXS-KHQ
Title: “US Troops Execute German Spies” (as opposed to “US Lawyers Coddle Towelhead Army Major”)
We have traffic cameras, face recognition street cameras, warrantless emails, snooping on our computers, tracking guns sales, tracking all of our credit card purchases, black boxes on our SUVs, cell phone gps snoops, gathering of our medical records, so hey, why not warrantless wiretaping? What’s one more evasion, right? One here, one there, and it starts adding up fast.
If they need the survellance, they can bloody well take it to a judge. It’s not like judges don’t just rubber stamp anything put before them, but at least it makes for a paper trail.
In a post 9/11 world? lol.
How can you not see that 9/11 line is nothing but a joke? If the government had the slightest interest in preventing another 9/11, they would not be sending weapons to the Sinaloa Cartel and keeping the border wide open.
They would not be flooding the nation with every stripe of moslem available, somali, egyptian, iraqi, afghan, pakistani, etc.
They sure as hell wouldn’t be using F-18s in close support of Al Qeida formations in Libya and itching to do so in Syria. They wouldn’t be supporting the moslem brotherhood with billios of dollars.
They wouldn’t do backflips to find ways to call major Hassan workplace violence. The fusion centers wouldn’t be issuing warnings on how to find terrorists that included looking for returnig veterans, Ron Paul bumperstickers, or stickers that advocate the constititution.
We wouldn’t have a moslem brotherhood connected woman accompany the Secretart of state everywhere. FBI and military training materials wouldnt be scrubbed clean of anything that implies moslems are the main terrorist enemy. Deploying troops wouldn’t be warned not to piss towards mecca of to discuss the -widespread- moslem habit of buggering little boys.
The government allows you to be sued for reporting things like the flying Imams to the flight attendant. Couldn’t find it in themselves to issue immunity. “If you see something, say something”? Surrrrrre, and get sued into poverty by one of Grover Norquist’s buddies.
Moslems may never be profiled at airport securites. Blue eyed blond American 5 year olds headed home from disneyland, grandmas whos husband stormed Iwo Jima get felt up and humiliated while moslems sail right through. Hell, sometimes moslems are DOING the screening, thats how insane the government is.
No, they do NOT get it both ways. There is no end to the governmental fellating of moslems. The only time they are aggressive about terror is when they can tighten the screws against Americans. So when they act serious everyhere else, and show a true need, maybe we can talk. But for now, i will not buy into that “post 9/11 world” BS. They government obviously does not take it seriously, so i won’t either.
And one another how do you do. 9/11 hit New York City the hardest of all, DC second. Yet, they voted more solidly for a Moslem connected president (being very generous here) than anywhere else, save for a few all black precincts in Philly and Ohio.
So i’m not going to get a case of the fainting vapors over another 9/11. Why should i give up my freedom when those who face the most risk, care so little that they reelect Obama?
That was for Wolfie, not you. But it amazes me. The people most at risk for a nuke going off in their town vote that way, then expect ME to be so freaked out, that i’ll be happy that the US government LITERALLY collects more personal information than the East German Stasi ever dreamed of. I fully believe this very post is saved somewhere by them.
This is an unbelievable abuse.
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