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Old and Worn Out? Why Not Suicide?
Townhall.com ^ | January 2, 2012 | Ken Connor

Posted on 01/02/2013 9:13:46 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/02/2013 9:13:51 AM PST by Kaslin
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“This is already happening in places like the United Kingdom, where the elderly as well as newborn babies deemed unworthy of hospital resources are being sentenced to death by dehydration.”

The younger Bushes’ “greatest” legacy in America.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 9:16:44 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Why is this Mr. Bush’s fault?


3 posted on 01/02/2013 9:18:42 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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If suicide of the infirm were a stand-alone question, without connection to issues such as the availability of medical care or involuntary “suicide” under pressure from medical personnel or family, it could be discussed simply as a liberty question. However, we know from the experience of other countries that the option of suicide quickly because the duty to die and the opportunity to kill.

This issue is similar to homosexual “marriage,” in that our discussion of both often proceeds in a philosophical vacuum, as if there is no real-world data about the practical outcomes. In both situations, there is a lot of data available, and very little of it supports the contention that suicide or homosexual “marriage” will add to the liberty and prosperity of the society.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 9:20:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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That is a better question.

The Progressives want the "Right to Die" to become the "Duty to Die"

Taking care of Elderly and Newborns is expensive, gotta pay for those Freebies some how.

We are murdering our next generation. Our nation will be a trash pile, but as long as the Liberals are in charge of it they are OKAY.

5 posted on 01/02/2013 9:21:28 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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“Why is this Mr. Bush’s fault?”

It is the fault of TWO Mr. Bushes in 2005, one president and one governor, whose cowardice in failing to make a stand for Terri Schiavo presaged the way for “benevolent” euthanasia in America.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 9:24:35 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Despair is a great sin. Despair and suicide in effect are saying - there are human problems or concerns which are greater than God, and that are beyond his plans for us. How can that not be evil?


7 posted on 01/02/2013 9:25:01 AM PST by PGR88
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The UK’s “Death Pathway” that you refer to will eventually be put into place here in order to save money on undesirable babies and elderly people. We have a culture of instant gratification that sees abortion as a convenience. How hard will it be to convince the parasite class that starving the helpless is in the best interest of America?


8 posted on 01/02/2013 9:26:17 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( Boehner, our Vichy Speaker)
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...and take a politician with you...


9 posted on 01/02/2013 9:27:24 AM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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my my my.....

Logan’s Run


10 posted on 01/02/2013 9:29:31 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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to accept the fact of one’s “diminishing existence” and to take decisive action to end one’s suffering is an act of immense courage

HUM. Okay. If we accept “diminishing existence” as a legit idea then what about the following.
All inmates in prison that are serving “life” sentences with no chance of parole should be executed. Surely their life is a diminished existence.. What about the handi-capped? The autistic? A slipper slope this would seem to be..............


11 posted on 01/02/2013 9:30:21 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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“How hard will it be to convince the parasite class that starving the helpless is in the best interest of America?”

Thanks to the Great Clinton’s Telecommunications Act of 1996 and Big Media’s 2005 Terri Schiavo campaign, enough of us are already sold.

Most of my “liberal” friends see no problem with offing a Republican or two in the alleged interests of our country.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 9:31:44 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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It is as if every single plot of every single dystopian novel liberals have ever read, serve as a wonderful menu of opportunities to them.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 9:32:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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Thanks for explaining that, and I agree.

The biggest problem I've encountered is that patients (young and old) are being counseled to sign “living wills” that they absolutely do not understand. If you read and understand all the ramifications of most documents of this ilk, you are paving the way for your euthanasia. Her doctor encouraged my mother to sign, and she paid for that mistake with her life. I stood and watched her die—legally helpless.

14 posted on 01/02/2013 9:35:29 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
"Logan’s Run"

Reminds me of "Soylent Green" also.

15 posted on 01/02/2013 10:01:12 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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I am so sorry, July4.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 10:04:23 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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This is already happening in places like the United Kingdom, where the elderly as well as newborn babies deemed unworthy of hospital resources are being sentenced to death by dehydration.

Not just "some" but A LOT.

Almost half of dying patients placed on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway are never told that life-saving treatment has been withdrawn, a national audit has found. The study suggests that in total, around 57,000 patients a year are dying in NHS hospitals without being told that efforts to keep them alive have been stopped.

It also reveals that thousands of dying patients have been left to suffer in pain, with no attempt to keep them comfortable while drugs were administered.

Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, last night described the disclosures from records held by 178 NHS hospitals as "totally unacceptable".

He said the failure to consult patients would now be examined by an independent inquiry, which will also look at payments made to hospitals for meeting targets to place people on the pathway.

Each year around 130,000 patients are placed on the pathway. The national audit by the Marie Curie Palliative Care Institute Liverpool and the Royal College of Physicians examined a representative sample of 7,058 deaths which occurred between April and June last year, at 178 NHS hospitals.

The good news is that some doctors are prescribing water to prevent forced dehydration of patients.

And not juts the elderly...pre-mature babies....youngsters involved in car accidents etc.....The Liverpool Pathway is no Yellow Brick Road....but a gateway to the morgue.

17 posted on 01/02/2013 10:05:45 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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Taking care of Elderly and Newborns is expensive, gotta pay for those Freebies some how.

But somehow, I've yet to meet a Libtard who will discuss the societal costs of giving endless free stuff to illegal aliens, endless treatment to recidivist druggies and endless incarceration or mental health services or counseling to career criminals.

Cost is not a factor here. That's the truly scary thing about libtards. They want absolute power over deciding who lives and who dies. And often for no more superficial reasons than skin color, gender, sexual proclivities and/or their own value judgments.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 10:06:28 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: spokeshave
"The Liverpool Pathway is no Yellow Brick Road....but a gateway to the morgue."

Like ObamaCare Death Panels...

19 posted on 01/02/2013 10:12:45 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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I watched many conservatives argue FOR the Bushes’ cowardly inaction because they believed everything Big Media told them, regarding her husband and PVS, on which they suddenly became as expert as the previous evening news had made them.

Horrible stuff out there, and more than half of American voters gave the Fraud a blank check (ours) to do anything he wants — as long as it’s to make the “rich” PAY their “fair” share.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 10:13:37 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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