Skip to comments.Ryan, Ribble join Wis. Dems in supporting fiscal cliff bill (Paul Ryan = RINO Fraudster)
Posted on 01/02/2013 9:47:30 AM PST by jimbo123
GOP U.S. Reps. Paul Ryan and Reid Ribble joined all three Dems in the states House delegation to support legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff.
Republicans Sean Duffy, Tom Petri and Jim Sensenbrenner voted against the deal, which passed the House 257-167.
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It’s ok, he is pretty. PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ryan is finished as a national candidate. He had better learn to
enjoy the perks of just being a Chairman and congressman.
That is all the future holds for him.
There are a few facts to consider:
The “Bush Tax Cuts” are now PERMENENT, for couples making less than $450K
The low Dividend Tax rate is also now PERMENENT.
We still have the opportunity to fight other spending elements as we move to the battle on the debt ceiling.
So, if we move from the headlines to the details, this may have been the best possible outcome.
It does fall short in that there are about 200 politicians I’d like to see behind bars, but, that’s just me.
GOP souls are cheap these days.
RINO apologist begone!
We now have a vote to seperate the RINOS from the Conservatives...or those who just think that changing your principles may be expedient, you have sold your soul for your political aspirations...and I for one wont vote for someone like that.
Ryan showed his true colors when he endorsed Romney in order to get the VP slot. If it’s a choice between his personal ambitions and the needs of his constituents, he will choose what’s good for him. As will all the rest.
If Ryan runs for President sometime down the road, I hope voters will remember. Or if they don’t, someone should remind them as often as possible.
Oh, I forgot, this is a “No thinking allowed” zone.
We need a war time consigliere
Please go away, RINO gnat.
I will await Paul’s explanation before passing judgement. I respect him enough to do that....he has sound reasoning.
Probably what they’ll remember is the MSM pretending he’s a far-right nutjob, akin to Democrats having nominated VI Lenin for VP.
Republicans shouldn’t beat themselves up over this. Some taxes were kept from increase. Ryan can redeem himself by resuming the fight with vigor in 2014.
Republicans can act like that old commie Lennin, who, when asked whether he wanted to read the unfavorable peace treaty that was negotiated with Germany during WWI, stated something like: “Why should I read it — I have no intention of keeping it.”
Did you want to include yourself among the Bumpersticker reactionaries?
DONT BE FOOLED: The Republicans Are Winning
Either they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop, or someone else is pulling the puppet strings, because both parties are going in the same direction. The Repubs are just hiding it better.
Since we no longer have a government.
Personally, I’ve had it with the roll-over Republicans.
Henry Blodget is a democrat who was convicted of securities fraud when he was at Merrill Lynch and was permanently banned from Wall Street. Is he a RINO hero, now?
I hate singling out individual Republicans. This is one issue the Republican Party didn’t have the guts or they deliberately wanted the bill to pass-Boehner in particular. I suspect the Republicans looked at who they could sacrifice to vote “Yea” to get just enough to pass it.
I’ve had enough of them.
How DARE you show some perspective! Don’t you realize that the only reactions allowed here are “KNEEJERK”?
There sometimes seems to be a competition called “Who Hates the Republicans More?” The contest is a tight one between conservative purists and Demonrat activists.
I am not thrilled with the 42 to 1 ratio of tax hikes vs spending cuts....but IF the Republicans can seriously hold their mettle on the debt ceiling, this may be the best we can do for now. We still only have half of one third of the federal apparatus.
McConnell rammed the deal through in exchange for a promise by Reid not to go nuclear on the filibuster.
And who really thinks Reid will keep his promise on the filibuster?
Especially when it comes time for the debt ceiling and sequestration “negotiations”?
How many times have I heard that over the last six months? You want to lay odds on them caving in on the debt ceiling?
The Republicans always vote for raising the debt ceiling. now why would you think they would do that now.
Not ‘thrilled’ with the 42-1 ratio, why how perfectly magnanimous of you. (pssst, you should be pissed)
My memory of Paul will always be the stepford Sub-gate handout with Romney two blocks from Santorum hdqtrs in Wauwatosa.
Rick was going to win Wisconsin and Johnson, Priebus, Ryan and the gang couldn’t have that! So they endorsed Mittens and handed out free subs to seal the deal.
Romnuts breezed in for one or two fundraising stops in WI. Santorum shook hands, criss crossed the state and bowled at every alley from Green Bay to Rice Lake.
The people noticed and were going to give him his due reward..until the GOP-E stepped in.
I lost all respect for them then and will not support either their party or their unelectable RINO candidates ever again.
This mess is going to take a radical fix. Though I don't like the Paulistanians, I voted for Ron Paul in the caucuses, because he was far enough out there to maybe get a fix to this mess without bullets flying. But the degree of difference between the Ds, and most Rs is close enough that nothing is really changing. And it is going to be an ugly-ass end game to all this. It might be 5 years from now, it might be 10, but it is going to be ugly, and there are going to be people dying. Don't know who, or why. Might be riots in urban areas, it might be prepper areas revolting. The nice thing about an 0bama election is it will happen sooner. I don't want it all to collapse when I am 75 years old. I want to be of an able bodied age when it all falls apart, so I can take care of myself.
Oh I think we saw pictures of Ryan’s “colors” during his college years
are the GOP on message? Is there one message or 101 messages?
there is one message so far, the sequester and the cuts happen in two months.
The Democrats no longer have the middle class as a hostage.
all they have is debt, deficit, cuts, and ????
any absolutist public point made now takes that politician out of the negotiations.
Were the Reagan tax cuts permanent?
There is no debt limit since it always gets raised.
Ryan Statement on Remaining Debt Challenge
House GOP passes legislation to prevent tax increases
January 1, 2013 WASHINGTONToday, the House of Representatives voted to prevent across-the-board tax increases on the American people, again taking action to avert the short-term fiscal cliff. Upon passage of the legislation, Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin issued the following statement:
Well never get our debt under control unless we tackle its main drivers: too little economic growth and too much spending. Without presidential leadership, it will be difficult to forge bipartisan solutions to our debt and economic challenges.
Today, I joined my colleagues in the House to protect as many Americans as possible from a tax increase. We also provided certainty by making the lower tax rates permanent. The House has already passed legislation to prevent tax increases for every American family, and it is unfortunate that President Obama insisted on taking more from hardworking taxpayers. Despite my concerns with other provisions in the bill, I commend my colleagues for limiting the damage as much as possible.
The American people chose divided government. As elected officials, we have a duty to apply our principles to the realities of governing. And we must exercise prudence. We must weigh the benefits and the costs of actionand of inaction. In H.R. 8, there are clearly provisions that I oppose. But the question remains: Will the American people be better off if this law passes relative to the alternative? In the final analysis, the answer is undoubtedly yes. I came to Congress to make tough decisionsnot to run away from them.
Now, we must return our attention to the real problem: out-of-control spending. Washingtons reckless spending drives the debt. And this debt is hurting the economy today. Unless we get at the heart of the problem, Americans will face a debt crisisone that will threaten our most vulnerable in particular. It is our responsibility to prevent such a crisis.
LOL. Permanent? Only insanity is permanent in D.C. A future Congress filled with enough Statists can un-permanent these tax rates. Ryan and many other GOP seem to believe foremost in State power.
All so called Conservatives should be asked first if they believe government is a necessary evil. If they cringe at the word evil then you know they are NO conservative.
Any one who thinks the GOP did anything good with this fiasco is a fool.
There is a 100% certainty that the GOP will cave on the debt limit. There is absolutely no way they will do anything meaningful. Only a fool would believe otherwise.
Boehner and many other Rep members are very weak men with no believe in Liberty. They deserve nothing but our utter contempt.
And your alternate recommendation that could stand the light of day is......???
Thanks. I truly respect Paul Ryan.
I believe him, and while not overjoyed with the bill that passed, I think his point of “divided government” is a good one.
Let’s regroup and do better in 2014 and 2016.
I doubt anything at this point can stop the eventual collapse of the Federal government (meaning fiscal collapse)
Ryan and the others do not have the honesty to tell the truth to the American people.
The elitists of both parties should eventually bear the righteous wrath of the American people. It is disgusting how they kick the can down the road and give lip service to Liberty.
They are weak contemptible men.
I have little respect for Paul Ryan. He voted for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, ethanol subsidies and other big government programs.
No true Conservative would ever cast such votes. We are long past giving respect for men and women who purposely without any remorse keep growing government.
Leaders? These people are very weak when it comes to our Constitution. Very few in Congress have the passion for Liberty and rugged individualism that our Founders expressed and held dear.
Do you want to know if Ryan is a Conservative? Have someone put a mic to his face and ask him if Government is a necessary evil
I have no doubt he would cringe at the word evil. Our Founders would not hesitate to describe how government must be chained down by the Constitution in order to prevent the evil of an all powerful government consuming the Liberties of it's citizens.
We are rushing on a path to tyranny and these fools think they are the best they can.
History will be brutal to the likes of Ryan, Boehner and the evil Left. They all deserve nothing but our contempt.
We should all be sad. And angry.
Caving = giving in = Republican
LOL. I am content knowing that Liberty will arise once again across our Republic.
What's sad and pathetic is watching fools espousing the belief that these politician truly care about our Liberties.
What's sad are the fools who think the likes of Ryan and Boehner have any Conservative instincts.
I laugh heartily at such fools :)
Not what I meant. You didn’t address any of the statement Paul released. You just called him names.
Not a winning argument for you.
That is what I meant by “sad”.
That isn’t a definition, it is a synonym. I want a clear, unequivocal definition.
1. a hollow in the earth, especially one opening more or less horizontally into a hill, mountain, etc.
2. a storage cellar, especially for wine.
3. English History . a secession, or a group of seceders, from a political party on some special question.