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SURPRISE ! – Well, notsomuch for y’all but: New Obamacare Tax Showing Up On Receipts….
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | January 3, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 01/03/2013 6:14:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip

#1 Here comes some of those Obama care taxes on Jan 1, 2013. Soon every purchase you make, there will be more taxes. On 103.98 I was charged 8.58 for Texas state taxes. And then Obama care medical tax another 2.39. So the more you spend , the more goes to the “so called free Obama care”.

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#2 O didn’t raise taxes, now did he. Here’s another ObamaTax receipt so you KNOW this is real. They should put ObamaTax on these so people know what they are paying.....

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacaretax
Obamacare has now put the Feds in the Sales Tax business --
1 posted on 01/03/2013 6:14:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

2013. The year we all start paying for Obamanism. Welcome to Hope and Change.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 6:17:20 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Uncle Chip

I wonder if you can refuse to pay it.....
Pay the bill, not the O-tax.....


3 posted on 01/03/2013 6:18:39 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Uncle Chip

It is important that people know the implication of their vote - Glad it is spelled out on a receipt


4 posted on 01/03/2013 6:22:55 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Uncle Chip

Besides that, my pop just got in the mail a note from his doctor that said due to Obamacare, his colonoscopy can only be done every 10 years instead of every 5. Being that he is now 74 I would say that they are telling him his colonoscopy has been effectively cancelled.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 6:24:08 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s already been taken care of. It was a mistake.

In any case, these purchases were not of medical devices so it should have been obvious.

This admin is bad enough in reality...


6 posted on 01/03/2013 6:26:42 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: KSCITYBOY

I can see them doing this, because they’ve done it before -

pressuring the entities printing the receipts to not make it so plain what those extra charges are for.

Leftists cannot thrive in sunlight.


7 posted on 01/03/2013 6:28:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Chip

Read about the common differences between an excise and a sales tax here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excise

The only common difference in this case is that the Obamacare medical tax at this point by definition applies to only a limited range of products.

That is, it is the camel’s nose of a federal sales (or VAT) tax now well under our national tent.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 6:29:05 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: baddog 219

Perhaps we are supposed to save all our receipts and claim it at the end of the year so the government will reimburse us?


9 posted on 01/03/2013 6:53:34 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: rfreedom4u
Perhaps we are supposed to save all our receipts and claim it at the end of the year so the government will reimburse us?

Are you sure you are getting enough oxygen?

10 posted on 01/03/2013 6:59:46 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Prospero
Are you sure you are getting enough oxygen?

Careful there!!! Obamacare may be taxing that next.

11 posted on 01/03/2013 7:10:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ltc8k6
Are you saying these receipts were in error? Are you saying the medical tax deduction was returned to the customer? Do you have a source?
12 posted on 01/03/2013 7:13:40 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Uncle Chip

The MSM will tell people that the new tax comes from Congress, which is Republican. And they will believe it.

Beck has compared us many times to the Weimer Republic in Germany. The Nazis used that platform to seize control, aided by a compliant media and sheeplike, uneducated masses.

I know this next post is long, and may be familiar, but well worth reading. From a talk by Kitty Worthman, concentration camp survivor:

“What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or read in history books,” she likes to tell audiences.

“I am a witness to history.

“I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.

If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasn’t so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.

“We elected him by a landslide – 98 percent of the vote,” she recalls.

She wasn’t old enough to vote in 1938 – approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

“Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.”

No so.

Hitler is welcomed to Austria

“In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unem- ployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs.

“My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.’

“We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933.” she recalls. “We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

Austrian girls welcome Hitler

“Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group – Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

“Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

“We were overjoyed,” remembers Kitty, “and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

Austrians saluting

“After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

“Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teach- ing profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been re- quired to give up for marriage.

“Then we lost religious education for kids

Poster promoting “Hitler Youth”

“Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang ‘Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,’ and had physical education.

“Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.”
And then things got worse.

“The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

“We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

“My mother was very unhappy,” remembers Kitty. “When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no sports, and no political indoctrination.

“I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

A pro-Hitler rally

“Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

“It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of hu- manistic philosophy.

“In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death.

“Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

“Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

Young Austrians

“It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps,” remembers Kitty. “During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

“They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.
“When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.
“Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

“When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately es- tablished child care centers.
“You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

“The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

“Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna..
“After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

“When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

“If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the med- ical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

“As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

“All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

“We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.
“ Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because peo- ple might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands.

“Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

“We had consumer protection, too

Austrian kids loyal to Hitler

“We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

“In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.

“So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good man- ual work.

“I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.

“I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

“They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

“As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

“Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.

“It’s true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

“America is truly is the greatest country in the world. “Don’t let freedom slip away.

“After America, there is no place to go.”


13 posted on 01/03/2013 7:22:54 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care

Those who cannot remember the past are destined to repeat it.


14 posted on 01/03/2013 7:46:28 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: KSCITYBOY

I suspect it won’t be long before “the Secretary shall” declare it ILLEGAL to itemize this tax.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 8:19:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Prospero

Are you sure you are getting enough oxygen?

I assume oxygen would be considered a “medical device” and thus would be subject to the tax also.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 8:34:42 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Fu-fu2
Those who cannot remember the past are destined to repeat it.

The problem the current generation does not remember, is that they are not taught history in schools.

17 posted on 01/03/2013 9:04:51 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: pepperdog; ltc8k6

Yes. The receipts were in error.

Everybody needs to check their receipts carefully over the next few weeks.

Companies rolled out new tax software that handles the new medical excise task. In some cases, like Cabellas, they accidentally applied the new tax to everything they sell.

In fact, there is likely nothing that Cabellas sells that would be considered taxable under the medical tax.

The same is true for the other receipt — nothing appears on the receipt that seems to qualify, and it looks like they simply applied the tax to the entire purchase.

The tax is on medical devices. Further, devices that are commonly sold to the general public will not be taxed — so if you buy a heating pad, or a splint, it should NOT get taxed. This tax was for medical devices that would be recommended by a medical professional, and generally sold in medical supply stores.

It will be interesting to see how stores handle this — but like i said, you should save all your receipts that mention the excise tax, because in all likelihood if you see that tax, you are seeing it by mistake.


18 posted on 01/03/2013 9:23:45 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: pepperdog

It’s covered in the comments at the CT link.

This stupid tax is not to be paid by the consumer anyway, even if a medical device was purchased at Cabela’s, this tax would not/should not be on the receipt.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 9:27:34 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I suspect it won’t be long before “the Secretary shall” declare it ILLEGAL to itemize this tax.”””

From a bookkeeping standpoint, I would say that it must be shown separately. The accounting in the books must show it separately, as there are 2 different taxing agencies who are charging taxes. Cannot legally meld them.


20 posted on 01/03/2013 11:35:19 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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