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Can You Imagine King George III Telling Our Nation’s Founders They Couldn’t Have Muskets?
Townhall.com ^ | January 6, 2013 | Doug Giles

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:43:58 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Morris70

Yeah, Michael Moore has also compared himself to Jefferson and I wasn’t impressed then either.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 6:30:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

When the left advocated violent overthow of the government, they were big advocates of the right to bear arms. Now that they have taken control of the government by non-violent, Alinskyite, methods, they want to disarm us so that they don’t get violently overthrown.

Ayn Rand (that dispicable atheist :)) once wrote that liberals advcated no violence against armed foreigners, but unlimited violence against unarmed citizens.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 6:40:39 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: DocRock

BTW, wrong Founders. The Founders intent was to keep their firearms ~ the same way the Huguenots did at the end of the French religious wars ~ which were far less religious in nature than they were political. The Huguenots bought themselves most of a century of basic liberty simply by REFUSING to stack arms in the armories at the ends of those wars. They not only saw a connection between freedom of conscience and firearms, they were the first living experiment in that process. When the Huguenots fled to America, they came as the first wave of refugees to grace these shores ~ you might want to read: http://archive.org/stream/memorialshuguen00stapgoog/memorialshuguen00stapgoog_djvu.txt


23 posted on 01/06/2013 6:40:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: coolbreeze

But then the Brits adopted the tactic and used rifle units as skirmishers in the Napoleonic wars.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 6:42:35 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: ronnie raygun
Lexington and concord, America’s first gun grab

True, but hey going after cannon, not muskets. With King Philip's War still a living memory, no one was going to give up his musket. The cannon buried in the fields of Barrett's farm were intended to intimidate the King George's army, not King Philip's braves.

25 posted on 01/06/2013 6:48:18 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: ronnie raygun
Lexington and concord, America’s first gun grab

True, but hey going after cannon, not muskets. With King Philip's War still a living memory, no one was going to give up his musket. The cannon buried in the fields of Barrett's farm were intended to intimidate the King George's army, not King Philip's braves.

26 posted on 01/06/2013 6:48:18 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: muawiyah

One of the things I’m finding in my genealogical research is that when my ancestors served with the British prior to the revolution they were called up on a part time basis and weapons came from an armory.

When they became militia patriots they had to keep their arms at home because they might be called up at a moment’s notice and there was no time to go sign for a weapon. Plus, an armory was just an easy score for the Brits.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 6:57:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

The gun control issue isn’t guns - it’s the means of self-defense.
Reading about Shariah law, I noticed that Christians were not permitted to own weapons like spears and swords. The better to leave them at the mercy of criminals and oppressors.
The issue was control of the servile population, not “guns”.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 7:01:52 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

Economic enslavement and a disarmed citizenry. Plunder & death, totalitarianism 2.0

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Domestic totalitarians have already encroached too far. They are useless eaters.

Check out item #1 in a whole host of transgressions...

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov

Names...

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/caucus-members/

Wanted posters with bounties have not been printed yet.

Prepare. Persevere.


29 posted on 01/06/2013 7:06:19 AM PST by PGalt
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Thoughts and intentions from a member of this totalitarian collective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqFIb0uVZrs


30 posted on 01/06/2013 7:13:03 AM PST by PGalt
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To: cripplecreek

What a nice govt. loyalist.
You should be proud of yourself.
Do wigs get better parking spaces?
Just curious .


31 posted on 01/06/2013 7:13:39 AM PST by Morris70
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To: cripplecreek

What a nice govt. loyalist.
You should be proud of yourself.
Do Tories get better parking spaces?
Just curious .


32 posted on 01/06/2013 7:15:22 AM PST by Morris70
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To: Daveinyork
"Ayn Rand (that dispicable atheist :)) once wrote that liberals advcated no violence against armed foreigners, but unlimited violence against unarmed citizens."

For all that Rand got right, I've never been able to reconcile her views against altruism and self sacrifice with our founders' willingness to pledge their lives, fortunes and sacred honor for their cause. She railed against the notion of a "common good," and yet it was the belief of only a small percentage of American colonists that their sacrifices would improve the lot of a new nation.

Had they not held fast to the notion of a 'greater good', bigger than self, we would have never broke free of the king.

33 posted on 01/06/2013 7:18:43 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: PGalt

I see John Dingellberry will be on Obama’s gun ban panel.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 7:19:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

American sailors had ships with cannons. Not enough of them to match the British, but they had to defend their ships crew and cargo from pirates.


35 posted on 01/06/2013 7:34:11 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Drawsing; Patriot2000
I did a search and found this thread from 2007 by Freeper Patriot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823003/posts

Going by the title in the thread I found this

History of Gun Control Around the World

Then I did a search of Paul Harvey on gun control, and found this from November 6, 2000

Paul Harvey on Guns

36 posted on 01/06/2013 7:39:58 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Morris70
>>Everybody’s afraid to do this non violent take over. Cowards!<<

Point taken, although bit of a broad brush statement.

IMO, the socialist are in firm control in all levels of government.

School boards, municipalities, states and definitely federal.

Hell, even in the great state of Texas which is overwhelmingly conservative, all major cities such as Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin are liberal as all get out.

My fear, in about twenty years, Texas will too become a blue state due to the influx of folks from libby lands looking for work and reasonable cost of living.

Not to mention the massive migration of illegals though our swiss cheese “federal” border with Messy-co.

37 posted on 01/06/2013 7:41:32 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: cripplecreek

“Yeah, Michael Moore has also compared himself to Jefferson and I wasn’t impressed then either.”

Agreed, Moore is nothing like Jefferson.

However, never in history have such factors as the level of present debt, an oppressive & tyrannical government, racial hatred, Muslim warfare (yes, they think they are at war with us), and conflict between producers and takers ever not ended in war.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Nathaniel Grigsby had it spot on when he dictated the words on his grave. I suggest doing a Google images search and reading it, because he was a school friend of President Lincoln.

Grigsby knew treason when he saw it, and was unafraid to call it such.

Do we have the same courage?


38 posted on 01/06/2013 7:43:53 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: GladesGuru

Of course they’re treasonous but it doesn’t make all of them treasonous. A handful of our congressmen are actually pretty good despite being imperfect mortals.

I’m just no fan of anarchists or knee jerk stupidity as detailed up thread that would do nothing more than solidify the democrat hold. Not every battle needs to be a suicide charge.


39 posted on 01/06/2013 7:57:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

“Can You Imagine King George III Telling Our Nation’s Founders They Couldn’t Have Muskets?”

He did.
That’s why our nation’s founders founded our nation.


40 posted on 01/06/2013 8:01:51 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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