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Whether the Semi-Automatic Weapons Ban Passes Depends on What Happens to the Senate Rules (McCain)
Red State ^ | January 4th, 2013 at 05:48 PM | Michael Hammond

Posted on 01/08/2013 4:06:24 PM PST by Red Steel

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The only vote I ever cast that I regret. I was suckered into voting for him by Sarah Palin. And it’s obvious I wasted my vote.


41 posted on 01/08/2013 6:01:59 PM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: Jim Noble

And so are all the conveniences that allow them to be so confident. Ever have so many small, usually insignificant things go wrong at once that you felt that you must have a Kick Me sign on your back. If that happens over and over, and costs a little money when it does, nerves start to get raw. You start thinking about what you ought to do different. You go on defense.


42 posted on 01/08/2013 6:04:37 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Happy Rain; aMorePerfectUnion
So you are glad Juan loss and Obama won?

It is a valid opinion that the 2008 election offered a choice between two men who, if elected, would likely become The Worst President In The History of The United States.

John Sidney McCain is a vindictive, narrow-minded and tyrannical opportunist who could've destroyed the USA by accident. Barack Hussein Obama, of course, is even worse.

43 posted on 01/08/2013 6:07:21 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Terry Mross
Terry, You wrote, "The only vote I ever cast that I regret. I was suckered into voting for him by Sarah Palin. And it’s obvious I wasted my vote."

+1

44 posted on 01/08/2013 6:16:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“It will not make it through the House regardless. FU mccain.”

We’ve been screwed so often by our “friends” that getting blindsided would not be surprizing.


45 posted on 01/08/2013 6:25:41 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Bingo.


46 posted on 01/08/2013 6:27:23 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Darksheare
RINOs ALWAYS act in this fashion. Is anyone actually surprised?

I guess the only ones surprised are Sarah Palin and the Republican primary voters in AZ.

47 posted on 01/08/2013 6:29:37 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Texas Fossil

I picture in the same position as Mussolini’s wife upside down on a telephone pole.


48 posted on 01/08/2013 6:29:51 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Red Steel

I’m not sure a rules change matters because McC never does filibusters anyway. He goes back to Louisville every weekend, or did.


49 posted on 01/08/2013 6:32:14 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: ClayinVA

And guess who will end up with the swat teams full auto toys and other goodies!


50 posted on 01/08/2013 6:32:31 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Theodore R.

Not all us Zonies cast our our for his last election to the senate. I sure as hell didn’t.

Voted for ‘him’ with Palin. Said never again and followed through.


51 posted on 01/08/2013 6:56:05 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: mrsmith
"proposal for reforming the Senate rules now has 26 co-sponsors, all Democrats. But they represent a healthy ideological cross-section of the entire caucus."

An ideological cross-section? What, from communist to fascist?

52 posted on 01/08/2013 7:01:54 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Red Steel
The leader of the gang of fourteen. How could this get past the house?
53 posted on 01/08/2013 7:08:37 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Red Steel

TSome of the ones who have served a long time have to pretend to be persuaded...

Barack Obama 4/25/05: “The President hasn’t gotten his way. And that is now prompting a change in the Senate rules that really I think would change the character of the Senate forever…what I worry about would be that you essentially still have two chambers the House and the Senate but you have simply majoritarian absolute power on either side, and that’s just not what the founders intended.”

Hillary Clinton 5/23/2005: “So this president has come to the majority here in the Senate and basically said ‘change the rules.’ ‘Do it the way I want it done.’ And I guess there just weren’t very many voices on the other side of the isle that acted the way previous generations of senators have acted and said ‘Mr. President we are with you, we support you, but that’s a bridge too far we can’t go there.’ You have to restrain yourself Mr. President.

Charles Schumer 5/18/2005: “We are on the precipice of a crisis, a constitutional crisis. The checks and balances which have been at the core of this Republic are about to be evaporated by the nuclear option. The checks and balances which say that if you get 51% of the vote you don’t get your way 100% of the time. It is amazing it’s almost a temper tantrum.

Harry Reid 5/18/2005: “Mr. President the right to extended debate is never more important than the one party who controls congress and the white house. In these cases the filibuster serves as a check on power and preserves our limited government.”

Dianne Feinstein 5/18/2005: The nuclear option if successful will turn the Senate into a body that could have its rules broken at any time by a majority of senators unhappy with any position taken by the minority. It begins with judicial nominations. Next will be executive appointments and then legislation.

Joe Biden 5/23/2005: This nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. It is a fundamental power grab.

Harry Reid 5/18/2005: “But no we are not going to follow the Senate rules. No, because of the arrogance of power of this Republican administration.”

Chris Dodd 5/18/2005: “I’ve never passed a single bill worth talking about that didn’t have a lead co sponsor that was a Republican. And I don’t know of a single piece of legislation that’s ever been adopted here that didn’t have a Republican and Democrat in the lead. That’s because we need to sit down and work with each other. The rules of this institution have required that. That’s why we exist. Why have a bicameral legislative body? Why have two chambers? What were the framers thinking about 218 years ago? They understood Mr. President that there is a tyranny of the majority.

Dianne Feinstein 5/18/2005: “If the Republican leadership insists on forcing the nuclear option the senate becomes ipso facto the House of Representatives where the majority rules supreme and the party of power can dominate and control the agenda with absolute power.”

Hillary Clinton 5/23/2005: “You’ve got majority rule and then you have the senate over here where people can slow things down where they can debate where they have something called the filibuster. You know it seems like it’s a little less than efficient — well that’s right it is. And deliberately designed to be so.”

Joe Biden 5/23/05: “I say to my friends on the Republican side you may own the field right now buy you won’t own it forever I pray God when the Democrats take back control we don’t make the kind of naked power grab you are doing.”

Charles Schumer 5/23/2005: “They want their way every single time. And they will change the rules, break the rules, and misread the constitution so that they will get their way.”

Hillary Clinton 5/23/2005: “The Senate is being asked to turn itself inside out, to ignore the precedent to ignore the way our system has work, the delicate balance that we have obtain that has kept this constitution system going, for immediate gratification of the present President.”

Max Baucus 5/19/2005: “This is the way Democracy ends. Not with a bomb but with a gavel.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X3lQ...=youtube_gdata


54 posted on 01/08/2013 7:11:22 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith
I remember McCain and his gang of 14. It was so important to sabotage B. Frist using the nuclear option to get conservative jurists an up or down vote in the senate. The first time in my lifetime conservatives had a chance to not just stop the progressives but start turning them back. John destroyed that for the comity of the senate. Harry Byrd was literally dancing with glee. It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.
55 posted on 01/08/2013 7:20:03 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Red Steel
These people will vote for the best interest of the marxists. They will do what they please, constituents be damned. Good luck with calling them.
56 posted on 01/08/2013 7:25:18 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I had a couple other folks on another thread telling me that an AWB will never pass so we are all worried about nothing...

Yeah, I called ‘em “idiots” too so don’t feel bad about thinkin’ it.


57 posted on 01/08/2013 7:36:59 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Nuc 1.1
How could this get past the house?

Depends on how frightened they are.

Of the media. An of us.

58 posted on 01/08/2013 7:42:22 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Red Steel; Travis McGee

If you don’t get an NFA license, you can expect the SWAT teams to descend on your house.


Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement



59 posted on 01/08/2013 7:42:31 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Texas Fossil

“They had best be careful what they wish for. Actions have consequences. The consequences of this one are beyond fathonable.”

“Unintended” consequences, surely!


60 posted on 01/08/2013 8:38:04 PM PST by Road Glide
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