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To: OneWingedShark

“Further, given some discussions I’ve had with members of armed forces — in addition to my own experience — there really is a tendency to “just follow[ing] orders.”

Really?!!? That’s disturbing. My experience is the opposite. Maybe I hang out with a better quality of Americans than you. How about you name this “tendency to follow orders” group so we can send in proselytizers to correct the Nuremberg “following orders” compunction.

There’s a small gang of commie infiltrators and doom and gloom surrender monkeys here on FR trying to demoralize conservatives. When you post stuff like this, you better have some facts to back up your opinion.

Comparing the 1861 Civil War to today is absurd. There’s real life and modern day examples of what happens to dictators who order their army to shot their families in their beds. Kaddhafi tried that and ended up dead on the hood of a BMW SUV, shot dead with his own gold-plated 9mm. His elitist army officers and UN bureaucrats decorated lampposts across the country.


47 posted on 01/09/2013 4:09:30 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave
“Further, given some discussions I’ve had with members of armed forces — in addition to my own experience — there really is a tendency to “just follow[ing] orders.”
Really?!!? That’s disturbing. My experience is the opposite. Maybe I hang out with a better quality of Americans than you. How about you name this “tendency to follow orders” group so we can send in proselytizers to correct the Nuremberg “following orders” compunction.

Maybe, it certainly wasn't as widespread as you might think; however I encountered it in training environs from the teachers -- which means that it was definitely inserted into the minds of troops; and usually it came in the form of the "[when] you signed up, you signed up to defend the Constitution, not enjoy it[s protections]."

There’s a small gang of commie infiltrators and doom and gloom surrender monkeys here on FR trying to demoralize conservatives. When you post stuff like this, you better have some facts to back up your opinion.

See the above.

Comparing the 1861 Civil War to today is absurd.

Not entirely; there are some parallels -- notably concerning the Rights & Powers of the several States. (Some people would say that governments only have powers, this is generally true, however in a federal system where the states delegate powers there are rights: just like in any legal contractual agreement.)

There’s real life and modern day examples of what happens to dictators who order their army to shot their families in their beds. Kaddhafi tried that and ended up dead on the hood of a BMW SUV, shot dead with his own gold-plated 9mm. His elitist army officers and UN bureaucrats decorated lampposts across the country.

That's true; and one thing the elite are not really considering as they continue provoking the average Joe. That, and the fact that they see killing off at least a tenth of the population of the country as 'necessary' for their plans is not something that instills a confidence in getting a peaceful solution.

50 posted on 01/09/2013 11:05:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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