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Florida couple faces charges over home vegetable garden
YourJewishNews.com ^ | Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:55 AM | Debbie Gross

Posted on 01/08/2013 10:07:15 PM PST by krularebbe

(Scroll down for video) A Florida couple faces hefty financial charges after refusing to give up their home vegetable garden, according to press reports in Orlando Florida.

The couple's home vegetable garden which is located in the College Park section of Orlando, is on the cutting board again after the city threatened hefty fines if not uprooted this week, according to a group for citizen’s rights.

Jason and Jennifer Helvenston announced that they are launching the "Plant a Seed, Change the law," program to protest Orlando's law against home gardens, saying it violates their constitutional right to peaceful use of their property to grow their own food.

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1 posted on 01/08/2013 10:07:23 PM PST by krularebbe
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To: krularebbe

We can’t just let people grow their own vegetables! If we did, that would lead to anarchy!! Leave produce to the trained professionals. Depend on others. It’s good for you.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 10:09:34 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: krularebbe
My grandparents had orange trees, grapefruit trees, banana trees, and avacado trees in their backyard in the greater Ft. Lauderdale area in the 1970s and 1980s. What's changed since then?

-PJ

3 posted on 01/08/2013 10:09:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: krularebbe

is it because the garden is in the front yard?


4 posted on 01/08/2013 10:13:45 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: krularebbe

I suspect Del Monte is behind this.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 10:18:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: coloradan

The city told them to plant grass.

Eat grass, citizen. And be thankful we allow that.

Sheesh.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 10:30:28 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: latina4dubya

In the middle class suburb of my youth, our Italian neighbors did indeed garden in their front yard, but so elegantly that it was more appealing to the eye than standard landscaping.

My diving (and drinking) buddy, on the other hand, when at the age of 21 was allowed to take over his mother’s house a block away, decided to grow corn in his front yard . . .


7 posted on 01/08/2013 10:36:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, hey, corn *is* a type of grass...


8 posted on 01/08/2013 10:38:54 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: krularebbe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmTJkZy0rM


9 posted on 01/08/2013 10:42:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: krularebbe
I can't wait for the chicken coop and goats. This will be a interesting cat fight.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 10:44:54 PM PST by Theoria
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To: latina4dubya
is it because the garden is in the front yard?

From the photo at the article it appears to be.

11 posted on 01/08/2013 10:46:50 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Jeff Chandler
when at the age of 21 was allowed to take over his mother’s house a block away, decided to grow corn in his front yard . . .

okay--that made me laugh...

12 posted on 01/08/2013 10:48:37 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Lettuce not have a rhubarb, bicker over who grew what, where. Human beans who carrot all about their neighbors won’t turn their front yards into truck farms.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 10:57:57 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
Human beans who carrot all about their neighbors

In a nutshell.

14 posted on 01/08/2013 11:00:39 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Political Junkie Too

What’s changed since then?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Oh, let me count the ways.

Start with (80’s) the ‘hippy offspring’ from the 60’s were coming of age, the hippy’s/peacenicks were underground slowly entrenching themselves in our education and political system.

“WE” just continued to work on, subtly ignoring the signs but kept going to work, feeding the juggernaut that was eating us alive.

By the time us pre boomers were getting to the ‘retirement’ table we ‘woke up’ to find that the inmates had indeed taken over the asylum -

We are ‘almost’ the bottom line in the old saying:
“First they came for the poor, then they came for the lame, etc etc etc now “WE” are at the stage of ‘they are coming for ‘US’ and there is no one left to help ‘us’”.

OF COURSE, when all the ‘worker bees’ fail to come out of the hive to support the ‘queen bee’ the ‘queen bees’ loyal subjects will turn on themselves first, and by the time they figure out it is time to come for us, hopefully ‘WE’ will be awake and able enough to take care of ourselves.....

NOW this is NOT a broad bush attack on one generation or another, there are plenty of good and bad (at least in our way of thinking) from our and their generations but like the man says, “Americas chickens have come home to roost” let me add: They just are outnumbering the Hawks and Eagles, but maybe, just maybe the Hawks and Eagles will awaken and bring some civility back to the table.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 11:05:40 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: coloradan

‘Eat Recycled Food. For a happier healthier live. Be kind and peacefull to each other, eat Recycled Food. Recycled Food, its good for the environment and o.k. for you.’


16 posted on 01/08/2013 11:10:24 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: krularebbe

more insanity


17 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tumblindice

On the other hand,I support the right of property owners to grow a garden anywhere on their land and to repair their car in the driveway as long as the work doesn’t create noise noise after sunset.

The nation has too many tyrants decreeing what may and may not be done on one’s own property.

LAst week the WLW radio host went on and on about Christmas decoration STILL being displayed in yards a week after Christmas—I had to applaud the caller who told him “it’s none of your business..”


18 posted on 01/08/2013 11:24:19 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: KitJ

I’d grow pampas grass...a lot of it!


19 posted on 01/08/2013 11:30:16 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: latina4dubya
Exactly! I'll bet if they had planted their garden on the side of their house or in the back of their house, it would not have been an issue. I wouldn't want to live next to someone who has planted a garden in the front yard, while the remainder of the neighborhood mows their lawns, and tends to their foundation plantings and trees. It may also be against the area's ordinance to grow a garden in your FRONT yard. Be a good neighbor and not try to buck a simple rule, especially when you have other options for where you can plant your garden.
20 posted on 01/08/2013 11:31:33 PM PST by itssme
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To: hoosierham

Thank you for the voice of reason. Far too many of FR support busybody neighbors telling others what to do on their own land.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 11:38:30 PM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

[[Human beans who carrot all about their neighbors
In a nutshell.]]

Lettuce Not Devolve thsi thread into Bad Produce Puns


22 posted on 01/08/2013 11:39:49 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: latina4dubya

[[is it because the garden is in the front yard?]]

Yes, bwecasue in America, ‘land of the free’, You are NOT free to do what you want with your own property that you worked hard to purchase with your own money- Peopple started stickign hteir noses into everyone elses business, and before you knew it, there were zillions of ‘ordinances’ orderign you to comply or else-


23 posted on 01/08/2013 11:43:47 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: hoosierham
as long as the work doesn’t create noise noise after sunset.

How about the rights of those who work nights and have to sleep days?

24 posted on 01/08/2013 11:44:26 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: CottShop

Confucius say, Woman who cooks carrots and peas in same pot is very unsanitary.


25 posted on 01/08/2013 11:48:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: CottShop
You are NOT free to do what you want with your own property

Neither are your neighbors. The reasons for restrictions are people who have no respect for others.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 11:49:15 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
unfortunately, that is why we have rules. some people need them
27 posted on 01/09/2013 12:21:36 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51
unfortunately, that is why we have rules. some people need them

A little consideration of others can go a long way in solving differences and problems that arise between people.

28 posted on 01/09/2013 12:29:09 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: latina4dubya

One of our neighbors planted corn in their front yard several years ago. Grew high enough that you couldn’t see most of the front of the house and it attracted all kinds of critters you don’t normally see in the city. Interestingly, the following year they couldn’t get anything to grow there, not even weeds. Poor people ended up having to replace all the soil to a substantial depth but only planted grass after that.


29 posted on 01/09/2013 12:37:16 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I see what you did there. Very interesting, you old roman.


30 posted on 01/09/2013 12:53:37 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: CottShop
Lettuce Not Devolve thsi thread into Bad Produce Puns

That would be radicchio!

31 posted on 01/09/2013 12:59:18 AM PST by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: hoosierham

In the neighborhood association where my mom lives you’ll get fined every month if you have a door knocker mounted on the door of your home, yard sales are illegal, you’re only allowed to water your lawn during certain hours of the day, cars not garaged cannot be parked for more than 24hrs at a time and they have the garbage cans with the computer that tells on you if you don’t seperate all the recyclables, and fines you automatically.


32 posted on 01/09/2013 1:20:01 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: krularebbe

>”Jason Helvenston said. “Our Patriot Garden pays for all of its expenses through the food produced and healthy lifestyle while having the lowest carbon footprint possible.”

“It provides valuable food while being attractive. We really do not understand why there is even a discussion. The city will have to take away the house before it takes away our Patriot Garden,” the Helvenstons said.”
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I stand with this young couple. Their small house is neat as a pin and so is their garden. The garden looks far better maintained than the broken up in need of repair city sidewalk in front of the house.

It’s stories like this that remind me why I will never live in the city.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 1:50:30 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: krularebbe

Here in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area of NC the big battle is back yard chickens. It’s quite common and allowed in most areas. They do however discriminate against roosters.


34 posted on 01/09/2013 2:46:43 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: krularebbe

simply a miracle that you do not see much more violence against gub mint types.
imho.


35 posted on 01/09/2013 2:56:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: GeronL

Yes. Just what the neighbors want to see, a garden in the front lawn. I saw get rid of it too. If my neighbor had a garden in the front yard, I would make heck too. Thankfully I live in a neighborhood with normal people who don’t do something so dang stupid.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 3:18:12 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: itssme
I wouldn't want to live next to someone who has planted a garden in the front yard, while the remainder of the neighborhood mows their lawns, and tends to their foundation plantings and trees.

Thank you, comrade, for your compliance...

37 posted on 01/09/2013 3:23:35 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: fattigermaster
Wow. Those are some rules. However, your Mom agreed to those rules when she moved there. That is the problem with people. They move into places with Homeowner Association and then find out they don't like the rules....time to move for them or step up to the responsibility that you signed.
38 posted on 01/09/2013 3:24:26 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: fattigermaster; napscoordinator

Wow - those are some nutty rules - a door knocker - ??!
And the garbage can that tattle-tales - so it is real in some places.

Politicians sitting around trying to come up with some really gnarly ‘rules’ for others.

Guess there’s enough folks who don’t mind at all, so they move in.
You’re not saying your mom hates it now - are you?


39 posted on 01/09/2013 3:38:50 AM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: coloradan
We can’t just let people grow their own vegetables!

Monsanto is not happy.

40 posted on 01/09/2013 3:40:22 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: krularebbe

The first time I visited my b-i-l in Florida, I noticed that he had grape fruit trees in his yard and a lot of fruit lying on the ground, I asked him why he wasn’t harvesting the fruit and he told me that it was a gigantic pain in the ass to tend the trees and gather the fruit and the trees were a nuisance.

I sort of understand his attitude. I like grape fruit ok and might eat two per year, also I have two walnut trees on my property and I understand about nuisance trees.


41 posted on 01/09/2013 3:42:34 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: fattigermaster
Did your mom agree to all those rules when she first moved there or did she sign on to some sort of home owner association giving it permission to make rules that also governed her?
42 posted on 01/09/2013 3:48:15 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: krularebbe

Its all about control.
North Koreans are eating grass and tree bark in their utopia.


43 posted on 01/09/2013 3:57:21 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: KitJ
Eat grass, citizen

(because it has more fiber than cake?)

44 posted on 01/09/2013 4:27:13 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: napscoordinator

And what gives you the right to determine what someone else’s personal property can look like?

Tyranny doesn’t just come from Democrat politicians, it comes from busy-bodies who can’t mind their own business.


45 posted on 01/09/2013 4:27:40 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: hoosierham

The more our government becomes a nanny-state, the more regular people become busy-bodies wanting to tell others how to live.

People give up their freedoms way too easy. This couple should be applauded for standing up for individual property rights, regardless of the fine. They are patriots, IMO.


46 posted on 01/09/2013 4:34:10 AM PST by Girlene
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To: EricT.
"Tyranny doesn’t just come from Democrat politicians, it comes from busy-bodies who can’t mind their own business."

EGGSactly Batman!

My theory is simply do what you want with your property as long as it does no harm (And when I say "Harm" I mean actually physical harm not some panty waist emotional distress B.S.) to any of your neighbors.

A garden in someone's front yard is not affecting me in any way except maybe my gardening neighbor might share some of his home grown goodies with me. I call that "Win-Win"...

47 posted on 01/09/2013 4:37:15 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: All

What is this neighboorhood and front yard I keep hearing about????


48 posted on 01/09/2013 4:44:14 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: krularebbe

Never understood the fascination of having neighbors so close you can’t take “your dog for a walk” (as my late grandfather used to say) without someone seeing you. The more people you have around the more rules you end up with..screw that.


49 posted on 01/09/2013 4:44:32 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: napscoordinator; fattigermaster

Where I live, the HOA just dissolved. 3 of the previous 6 BODs had been recalled for trying to make up new rules that the owners didn’t want. We finally voted on releasing the properties from the CC&Rs, and it was 85% in favor of release!

Since our CC&Rs allowed the properties to be released by a simple majority vote, it is over. However, county ordinances remain. I gather some HOAs, however, require a 100% vote to disband.

My daughter lives where there is an HOA, and she likes it. The houses are all about 10-20 feet from each other, and the development has private roads maintained by the HOA. HOAs make sense in some places, but not where I live.


50 posted on 01/09/2013 5:04:29 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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