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Silencers: The NRA’s latest big lie
Salon ^ | Dec 30, 2012 | Alexander Zaitchik

Posted on 01/10/2013 3:30:52 PM PST by Second Amendment First

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To: Nachoman

Then why not use supersonic ammo with a silencer? Isn’t it all about em vee square?


41 posted on 01/10/2013 5:12:41 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My tagline.


42 posted on 01/10/2013 5:13:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: Iron Munro

“I think the federal restrictions on silencers is a leftist war on the hearing disabled.”

It was passed during the Great Depression due to game wardens worries about poachers more easily evading them if silencers were not outlawed..

In Europe, silencers are readliy available. However, telescopic sights are restricted, due to fears of snipers.

Hint to gun grabbers: America has tens of millions of scoped rifles owned by skilled marksmen.


43 posted on 01/10/2013 5:14:29 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: 353FMG
Noise from a firearm comes from 3 different sources.

1) the action. That is not very loud.

2) the chemical explosion of the powder. That's what suppressors supress.

3) supersonic crack of a bullet as it exceeds the speed of sound. A suppressor does nothing for that significant noise.

/johnny

44 posted on 01/10/2013 5:18:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Second Amendment First
Don't worry. It's probably not the muffled shot that is going to kill you.

Next!

45 posted on 01/10/2013 5:18:43 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: FunkyZero

“...and do they even make one that could survive a 25-06, 220 swift or .222 for more than a dozen shots...”

Just about any cartridge you can name can be equipped with a silencer.


46 posted on 01/10/2013 5:19:06 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: FunkyZero

It depends on the design. Suppressors with steel or copper wool in the baffles will not stand more than a few rounds of fire from a high powered rifle. But the kind with baffles similar to those used in automobile mufflers will last many thousands of rounds.


47 posted on 01/10/2013 5:22:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Even in Europe silencers are common.


48 posted on 01/10/2013 5:22:59 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ptsal

There is a threaded adapter that fits on your barrel and on the filter. I have read that if you are shooting a .22, it will last you many thousands of rounds, but if you are shooting a higher powered handgun or rifle, the filter will last only a few. You then have to send the silencer back to the manufacturer and THEY will replace the filter for $25. I have read that is because once the oil filter is attached to the adapter, it is legally a part of the suppressor and the owner cannot modify it.


49 posted on 01/10/2013 5:30:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: 353FMG
Then why not use supersonic ammo with a silencer? Isn’t it all about em vee square?.

No. A bullet usually doesn't reach maximum velocity until it has exited the muzzle. Not all rounds are effective at subsonic velocities, so their use is impractical with some guns. But the supersonic "crack" will seem to occur away from the gun which provides some tactical advantage to the shooter.

50 posted on 01/10/2013 5:47:25 PM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Nachoman

“But the supersonic “crack” will seem to occur away from the gun....”

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That sounds logical as the bullet will reenter subsonic speed because of air friction.


51 posted on 01/10/2013 5:57:55 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Well, there you go. As Joe Biden Said “If it just saves one kid’s hearing”....


52 posted on 01/10/2013 6:01:30 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Blood of Tyrants; ptsal
Oil filter suppressor
53 posted on 01/10/2013 6:05:54 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well....

Tell us about it. How does it shoot? Do you really need that big scope on the top?

54 posted on 01/10/2013 6:07:44 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Anyone able to get the comments to open? Neither my Mac or laptop PC would open them. This moron needs to be set straight.


55 posted on 01/10/2013 6:33:44 PM PST by allblues
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To: carriage_hill
The usual armed guard at Taft HS called-in absent, since he was ‘snowed-in’ today.

Oops! Sorry.

56 posted on 01/10/2013 6:48:13 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Pollster1
I'm the first to admit I've never heard a gun fired with a silencer, but even I know it doesn't make that James Bond "pshew" sound. I know it's still loud.

This author needs to get out of his NYC apartment more.

57 posted on 01/10/2013 8:00:17 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Yo-Yo

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58 posted on 01/10/2013 8:59:31 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Repeat Offender

I am looking at this the way banks have tellers with silent panic buttons that notify those with guns there is a hold up in progress. I agree that the more teachers with guns, the better. But not all teachers will get guns and the training to use them. I say give the panic buttons to the teachers who are not equipped with guns. Those in the immediate area with guns can still take out the shooter.


59 posted on 01/10/2013 10:36:10 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 353FMG

“Isn’t it like belt and suspenders?”

I know a guy that has a silencer on a 22 rifle and when he shoots a long rifle bullet you hear the click of the firing pin but you hear the report from the target when the bullet hits and you get the sonic boom from the target not the gun, just like a jet breaking the sound barrier.


60 posted on 01/10/2013 10:52:16 PM PST by dalereed
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