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It’s Not Just Your Guns; It’s America We’re Losing
Absolute Rights ^ | January 9, 2013 | Tim Young

Posted on 01/11/2013 4:42:09 AM PST by IbJensen

This might come as a surprise to a lot of you, but I’m not a gun person… never have been, never will be. And you can stop reading right there and be angry, but you know better… so read on. The one thing that I have always been and always will be, is a freedom person.

I believe in all of the freedoms and liberties given to us by the Bill of Rights… something that very few Americans currently understand.

One group of people who completely understand our rights are the President of the United States, Barack Obama, and the elected officials of the Democratic Party. That understanding should scare you… because they fully know the freedoms we were given when the Bill of Rights and Constitution were written, and have actively worked to take them away.

Today, Vice President Joe Biden announced that the President would unilaterally act using an executive order, SOMETHING HE PROMISED NEVER TO DO WHEN HE RAN FOR OFFICE FOUR YEARS AGO, to limit your Second Amendment rights.

He is attempting to act on the tragedies of the past year to limit the rights of the republic to be free and protect itself… The Second Amendment, which, for those of you have forgotten, says the following:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

This Amendment was written because our founding fathers wanted us to have the same footing as the government… to have the same weapons and defensive capabilities so that our own leaders wouldn’t take advantage of our people. It’s a “when all else fails,” clause.

America has internally become weak because of a long time of peace. Somewhere in between the Civil War and now, we have forgotten what it was like to fight for our rights. We have taken for granted the fact that we have been able to work together to accomplish great things in not only America’s history, but the world’s. When you get comfortable and settle in to your every day life, you let your defenses down… that’s when things go horribly wrong.

What’s happening now is a result of us being fat and happy. We haven’t been threatened on our home turf in over a century… but that doesn’t mean that we couldn’t be again.

What the President is doing is taking away that final “when all else fails,” ability to protect our rights. The people of this nation have spoken, and stupidly, they have chosen to take hand outs and continue to be fat, happy, and lazy…

We brushed over the fact that only months ago, we were fed lies on Benghazi, not to cover up what happened there, but in an attempt to begin to limit our First Amendment freedom of speech. Remember the outcries of the Democrats when they were blaming a video for the attacks… we were told that we needed to start to scale back what we could talk about to protect ourselves. That didn’t work…

So when they failed we were hit with another tragedy in Connecticut, and they have moved on to trying to take your guns… If that doesn’t work, there are a pile of other rights that they can try to take, and I’m sure they will…

They will continue to do so until we finally say “ENOUGH!” But let’s face it, America said “FORWARD!” in the last election…

This isn’t the America that the Founding Fathers intended to have; this isn’t the America that I was brought up to believe in; this is a new America, with less freedom than we have ever had. An America where people can live without working and an America where the stupid prevail.

It’s time to act folks. It was time to act 4 years ago, and it was time to act in November, but that didn’t work either.

Call your representatives in Congress, call Attorney Generals in your home States, and call your friends and neighbors to do the same.

You’re about to finally and definitively lose your freedoms… and you’re about to finally and definitively lose your America.

The time is now to be smarter than they think you are.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; evilobamaregime; guncontrol; obama; obamaisamonster; remakeamerica; secondamendment; takeamericaback; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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Freedom isn’t free!

You can never restrain a determined foe like Obama and this central socialist power grabbing government by pacifism, only by his ready acknowledgement that any aggression incurred by him will be met an equal or greater response. And that response will cost something; it always has and always will. God grant that there will always be those people,whether gun persons or not, who are willing to pay the price. I am!

1 posted on 01/11/2013 4:42:17 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
I believe in all of the freedoms and liberties given to us by the Bill of Rights… something that very few Americans currently understand.

God given

2 posted on 01/11/2013 4:44:24 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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But as we all know, Rpmney would have been worse because instead of discussing how many of our rights are going to be taken away, we would have been talking about that silly economy.
3 posted on 01/11/2013 4:46:47 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: IbJensen

Obama apparently asked for the law limiting secret service protection to be repealed and provided for life.

Is that paranoia? I would love to know how many death threats he receives on a daily basis.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 4:47:49 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: IbJensen

Realty is that very, very few people will contact their representatives. Very sad.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 4:52:47 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: School of Rational Thought
"Realty is that very, very few people will contact their representatives. Very sad."

It is the active military that should be contacted. Ask them why they have failed to uphold their sacred oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Ask them why they blindly serve the Usurper.

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

6 posted on 01/11/2013 5:04:33 AM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: IbJensen

As I have been predicting for a long, long time now, but do not be surprised if a second American civil war starts down the road.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 5:10:18 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: IbJensen

“They will continue to do so until we finally say “ENOUGH!” But let’s face it, America said “FORWARD!” in the last election…”

The sad reality is that we truly is a very badly divided country. Plus the last election was, let’s face it, was STOLEN.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 5:16:42 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

I think the decaying, decadent city known as Washington, D.C. now resembles Madrid in 1936.

The administration and the environs of Washington are rife with those who are communists or their traveling companions.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 5:17:39 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Graybeard58
God given

Yeah. The writer's lack of understanding of that most important, most fundamental, truth pretty much soured me on the piece by the second paragraph.

10 posted on 01/11/2013 5:21:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Silence is a form of consent.)
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To: IbJensen
MEMO TO TIM YOUNG: In my opinion Obama and Biden can be impeached for failures: to uphold the law; to uphold the constitution; and to defend the constitution.

The impeachment charge would be failure for each one to uphold his sworn oath of office.

Talk about a high crime....that is the highest crime (short of treason) against the American republic.

11 posted on 01/11/2013 5:26:59 AM PST by Rapscallion (Obama is America's first tyrant....president in name only - PINO)
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To: newnhdad

Stop it.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 5:29:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: IbJensen
Freedom isn’t free!

No, but my Obamaphone was! /s

13 posted on 01/11/2013 5:32:45 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: IbJensen
I believe in all of the freedoms and liberties given to us by the Bill of Rights… something that very few Americans currently understand.

Good Lord, Tim.

The BoR merely enumerates the rights. The rights exist without their enumeration. The BoR gives us .... nothing. God gives us those rights.

14 posted on 01/11/2013 5:33:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz
The BoR merely enumerates the rights. The rights exist without their enumeration. The BoR gives us .... nothing. God gives us those rights.

I've been drilling this into the heads of my liberal coworkers now since the election. The Bill of Rights is an affirmation of rights that have always existed. They are not a rule book by which our government is to abide. They are an enumeration of that which is literally inalienable and not capable of being taken away by the government. They are the unassailable property of the people. Period.

This article is somewhat halfhearted in my opinion. The author SEEMS to get it, but he falters on crucial points, the greatest of which is the absence of any mention of God and His role in the liberty of a free people.

We've strayed so far from God. These are the times that try men's souls.

15 posted on 01/11/2013 5:44:37 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Biggirl
As I have been predicting for a long, long time now, but do not be surprised if a second American civil war starts down the road.

Sadly, I don't think it will every happen unless FR keystrokes turn into bullets. Yeah, we are all going to get stressed out and upset, stock up on the latest prepper supplies, but we are tied at the wrist to a bunch of Godless idiots voters who happily take the handouts and lies being thrown their way from DC and MSM - and now "WE THE (FREE) PEOPLE" are outnumbered.

Single Sluts and welfare moms want their free condoms, and when they forget, we will pay to kill their babies - because it is their right not to be burdened with responsibility for their freewheeling actions. At least gays are cheap, as they don't need contraception and don't have abortions. All the black folk (93% voted for Obama) are just out for revenge and to help the brother.

Red States need to be talking about 10th Amendment and Secession RIGHT NOW. Dickheads like Cuomo and Bloomberg will lead NY right to the gates of Hell, and the voters will be happily skipping to his pied piper tunes! New Yorkers are a bunch of limp-wristed pantywaists!

Sadly, we have lost the ballot box as a cure for our ailing country, and we are going down. The "United" States is no more. I don't share any morals and values anymore with Communist Northerner States: NJ, NY, CT, MA, MI, OH, DE, ME, RI, MI, or the left coast CA - freedom and liberty need to continue on without them... somewhere.

Yogi Berra's quote now presents words of wisdom: "When you see the fork in the road, take it."

16 posted on 01/11/2013 5:53:02 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: IbJensen

In response to what Obama via Biden said yesterday to the NRA, I ordered a new Glock 26 this morning from Buds.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 6:10:21 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. To win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: Biggirl

“Down the road”? I think not. We are in the midst of a Civil War, Good vs Evil, Right vs Left. Anyone who does not believe this is a fool.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 6:12:36 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Biggirl
“They will continue to do so until we finally say “ENOUGH!” But let’s face it, America said “FORWARD!” in the last election…”

The sad reality is that we truly is a very badly divided country. Plus the last election was, let’s face it, was STOLEN.

That is the truth. It has gone beyond the tolerance levels of some people, but how many? We are a fractured society and sadly, generational conditioning through a media mind meld and educational indoctrination have created a culture of collective dependence with a palate for socialism. When Obama cried out for ' a civilian force just as large and powerful' as the military....he knew that such an army has always existed in America. It is the American people. He knows he cannot complete the transformation of America into a socialist state until that army, the one of the free and the brave, is fully subjugated.

Every appointment, every nomination, every single act and order are all designed to subjugate Americans and overthrow our way of life. Obama, Congress, and the Supreme Court are failing the American people.

Once upon a time in America, people were being oppressively taxed and had no real voice in their governance. It was deemed 'taxation without representation'. History tells us how they responded. Today, we find ourselves facing the exact same scenario.

How will the American people of today respond? Will they seek to preserve the only form of government in the history of mankind that recognizes an inidividual's divine rights and prohibits their infringement, or will they surrender those rights and liberties in exchange for the promise of comfort and security at the hand of a benevolent ruler?

19 posted on 01/11/2013 6:13:12 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: broken_arrow1

“Sadly, I don’t think it will every happen unless FR keystrokes turn into bullets. Yeah, we are all going to get stressed out and upset, stock up on the latest prepper supplies, but we are tied at the wrist to a bunch of Godless idiots voters who happily take the handouts and lies being thrown their way from DC and MSM - and now “WE THE (FREE) PEOPLE” are outnumbered.”

It was really a mix of BOTH those who are blind, deaf, and dumb, and the use of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD.

A sure sign we are rather BADLY DIVIDED as a country.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 6:13:33 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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