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Woman walked into Philly high school with gun in a diaper bag, police say
Associated Press ^ | January 10, 2013

Posted on 01/11/2013 1:09:57 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

A woman is behind bars after police say she tried to walk inside a Philadelphia high school with a loaded gun in a diaper bag.

A school district spokesman says the adult woman, identified as 21-year-old Kelly Jones, was entering South Philadelphia High School on Thursday to register for evening classes when school police at the X-ray machine spotted the .40 caliber Smith & Wesson semi-automatic handgun.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; diaperbag; gun; guncontrol; jones; secondamendment
"Obliterated" is an interesting choice of words.
1 posted on 01/11/2013 1:10:10 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

So she’s in jail for two government created “crimes”.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 1:13:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

What word would you have used?


3 posted on 01/11/2013 1:15:08 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

School police? X-Ray machines? You mean Philly schools are ARMED CAMPS? In a Democrat’s district?


4 posted on 01/11/2013 1:16:48 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: cripplecreek

govt created crimes? no serial number and no permit? so many here on FR say that if we only enforced the current gun laws, we might not be in the position we’re in. seems those laws are being enforced.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 1:17:15 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: VeniVidiVici

Isn’t that what lots of folks here are saying we need?


6 posted on 01/11/2013 1:18:45 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
Not a semi-automatic handgun!!!

Oooo... you in trouble now, lady. Had it been something else other than an assault pistol we might not even be readin' this, huh?

7 posted on 01/11/2013 1:18:49 PM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
when school police at the X-ray machine

School police? X ray machines?

I am more than glad I no longer have kids in government controlled schools which are full of unionized government teachers...

What utter chaos...

8 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t get the problem here... looks like she is a bit off by bringing a diaper bag to a high school, perhaps her kid has some “issues”, as typically high schoolers are out of the diaper stage...


9 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:42 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: stuartcr
Well, whatever, she was caught only through the use of metal detector technology.

Do you really think she went there to shoot someone?

Remember, our objective should be to STOP THE SHOOTERS long before they think of that, not just bust people with a gun.

10 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’d want to be armed if I went into a Philadelphia public school ... or into Philadelphia at all! You just can’t win these days.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 1:22:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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To: stuartcr

I don’t care what many people say.

Serial numbers and permits are an infringement in my opinion.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 1:23:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: stuartcr
I searched for a non-AP article and noticed the word is used in quotes on Philly.com which would mean it was said by the officer. The AP version used the word but not with the quotes.

http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-10/news/36260459_1_diaper-bag-gun-split-schedule

The gun had a “obliterated” serial number, Nodiff said. Jones had no permit to carry the gun.

13 posted on 01/11/2013 1:23:14 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: stuartcr

What word would you have used?


Removed.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 1:28:41 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: C210N
Louis Vuitton and Gucci both 'make' diaper bags. And, they make other bags that look like diaper bags.

So, what bag is this article referring to?

It's hardly unusual for a young woman to use a large DESIGNER bag for all sorts of purposes~!!! Since the bag had to be placed in the device where they found the firearm, it's pretty clear she didn't even know it was there.

15 posted on 01/11/2013 1:29:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeStatement

I get so tired of the permit restrictions. Her permit is the 2nd amendment the sooner someone with means can challenge this manifested usurp of that amendment the better. The average citizen would never get through the courts financially.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 1:30:28 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: stuartcr
Isn’t that what lots of folks here are saying we need?

No, you're not paying attention or thinking.

America was once a land of volunteers, prior to big government's total control and regulation over everything.

Why not use parent armed volunteers?

Use the local police or sheriff to ONLY conduct backgrounds and maybe provide some free training for volunteers, seek out military veterans and or others with experience to volunteer...Government teachers are bad enough, and they need to teach...Use volunteers...Does this make too much sense?

You could put 5 qualified and screened armed parents in and around every damn school in the country at very *minimal* cost.

WTF is wrong with that?

Oh, I know what's wrong with it...The government can't control it regulate it or concoct more ways to raise taxes!

17 posted on 01/11/2013 1:32:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ConservativeStatement

A real crime has three parts. A perptetrator. A victim. And damage done.

So the perp is supposedly this woman. The victim is who? The “law? Itself? How do you face that in court? Lastly... What damage did she do? Did her gun go off and hurt a stack of law books?

We need to restore sanity to our legal system. Too many generations of “lawyers” writing “laws” to keep themselves in business...


18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:38:44 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: stuartcr
Isn’t that what lots of folks here are saying we need?

Only trying to point out the utter hypocrisy of the Left when Democrat politicians are using the dead kids of Newtown to try and score points about how evil it would be to have a cop stationed at a school.

My point is that inner-city schools have much more than "a cop". They are armed camps. Have been for years. Of course, the MSM will never bring that up during this debate.

19 posted on 01/11/2013 1:38:44 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Mug shot:


20 posted on 01/11/2013 1:46:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Did she have a baby with her, or why was she carrying a diaper bag around?


21 posted on 01/11/2013 1:48:41 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: cripplecreek

I think she should have had the presence of mind to know she had a gun in her diaper bag before she went through a metal detector


22 posted on 01/11/2013 1:53:15 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: NEMDF
This is from another Philly.com article:

Jones was with her infant and an aunt at the school Thursday morning, Nodiff said, and the child is now in the aunt's custody.

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20130111_Woman_arrested_for_carrying_loaded_gun_into_S__Philly_High.html

23 posted on 01/11/2013 1:56:57 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: NEMDF

24 posted on 01/11/2013 2:19:44 PM PST by EEGator
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To: muawiyah

Probably not. I imagine she got it cheap for protection, but what else could they do, especially today?


25 posted on 01/11/2013 4:17:53 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: dragnet2

right, armed volunteer parents that want to spend 40+hrs/wk walking around a school...for free


26 posted on 01/11/2013 4:24:37 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

People in Philadelphia need to be armed ~ put an end to this sort of nonsense.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 4:25:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

don’t you think manufacturers should use serial numbers on their products? what kind of business does that? how would any warranty work be done, or repairs, or inventories?


28 posted on 01/11/2013 4:35:40 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

I think if I buy something and choose to remove the serial number from my property, its my business.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 4:39:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: philetus

doesn’t really fit the picture of the responsible gun owner/carrier that so many freepers talk about, does it?


30 posted on 01/11/2013 4:41:54 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: cripplecreek

How does that work for repairs or warranty work or re-sale? How many of your weapons don’t have serial numbers now?


31 posted on 01/11/2013 4:47:15 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

Those are my problems and no one else’s.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 4:48:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

good for you


33 posted on 01/11/2013 4:50:56 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: cripplecreek
Serial numbers and permits are an infringement in my opinion.

Serial number ranges is how you can be notified of potential malfunctions and factory corrections to those mechanical problems. Registering them with the government is another matter.

34 posted on 01/11/2013 7:00:37 PM PST by GingisK
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35 posted on 01/11/2013 7:09:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: stuartcr
Oh, that's right...Impossible, impractical, old fashioned...Must use big government...Big government has all the solutions...

Good thinken stu...

36 posted on 01/11/2013 9:45:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Tell ya what, we’ll get back to this and see how the whole volunteer thing does and have another discussion on it.


37 posted on 01/12/2013 8:56:33 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr
Give your local government a call. They'll give ya some advise stu and let ya know if they would authorize this. They have all the answers!

Just be sure to press 1 for English!

38 posted on 01/12/2013 9:13:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Please see my last


39 posted on 01/12/2013 10:06:11 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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