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To: RoosterRedux

Good question. To be honest, I don’t know. However, I hope that I would at least start by not ceding ground as he did.

You think giving concessions is helpful? You give them an inch, they will gladly take a mile.

In my view, Alex Jones did better. After watching Shapiro, I think I better understand why Jones never shut op. (With Shapiro, Morgan never shut up.)

I think the answer needs to be along these lines: This is my Second Amendment. Stay the hell away from it.

No more “defending” the Second Amendment. Time to go on offense. Get in their faces for wanting to subvert/overturn it.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 4:55:01 PM PST by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: man_in_tx
I, like you, am angry as h$ll about the Left's attack on the 2nd Amendment (and I don't disagree with Jones on this matter...though I don't think it wise to talk about 9/11 insider theories at the same time).

That said, Shapiro was calm (almost) and collected in his response. He didn't concede so much as refuse to argue points which were extraneous to HIS argument (i.e. he didn't let Morgan drag him off target and fog his message).

Shapiro pounded home one point...and I believe it worked (Morgan was deflated)...

Shapiro's point was that the 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny (uh oh, new tag line alert;-)). It worked against King George (in that we refused to disarm)...and will work against Obama and his successors.

As a follow-on point, Obama took an oath to defend the Constitution...not to destroy it.

He is tyranny personified.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 5:07:17 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny.)
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To: man_in_tx

Your comments are correct, but the caveat for every conservative is “in my view”. We already agree on the imporatance of liberty and the 2nd Amendment. It is the mushy middle that needs to be corralled.

Sadly, the mushy middle consists of white women who would otherwise side with us, but voted Obama in. It is in their view that our arguments make sense.

The call for “common sense gun laws” are a fight for the mushy middle. We won’t win it without arguments that convince them. Then as the heat turns down simple legislative manuvering kills the rest off.

Our error is in responding to direclty. Better to get back to Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the ongoing corruption of the Obama Admin. Stop fighting on their terms, turn their flanks and attack.


40 posted on 01/12/2013 6:01:07 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: man_in_tx

Your comments are correct, but the caveat for every conservative is “in my view”. We already agree on the imporatance of liberty and the 2nd Amendment. It is the mushy middle that needs to be corralled.

Sadly, the mushy middle consists of white women who would otherwise side with us, but voted Obama in. It is in their view that our arguments make sense.

The call for “common sense gun laws” are a fight for the mushy middle. We won’t win it without arguments that convince them. Then as the heat turns down simple legislative manuvering kills the rest off.

Our error is in responding to direclty. Better to get back to Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the ongoing corruption of the Obama Admin. Stop fighting on their terms, turn their flanks and attack.


41 posted on 01/12/2013 6:06:11 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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