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MSNBC's Wagner Insists 'No One, Anywhere' Wants to Scrap 2nd Amendment; But She's On Record
newsbusters.org ^ | 11 January, 2013 | Ken Shepherd

Posted on 01/12/2013 6:16:58 AM PST by marktwain

"No one, anywhere, is talking about doing away with the Second Amendment, and no one, anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership," MSNBC's Alex Wagner insisted on the January 11 edition of her eponymous noontime program.

Nice try, Ms. Wagner, but exactly two years ago to the day, your colleague Richard Lui suggested it was time to "revisit the Second Amendment" following the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.). In November of 2011, Wagner admitted to liberal comedian Bill Maher that she was "going to be pilloried for this" but that she would amend the U.S. Constitution to ditch the 2nd Amendment:

I think get rid of the second Amendment, the right to bear arms. I just think in the grand scheme of the rights that we have; the right of assembly, free speech, I mean, owning a gun does not, it does not tally on the same level as those other Constitutional rights.

On her Nov. 15, 2011 program, Wagner suggested she would like at the very least a ban on handguns:

Gun violence increases and yet people still believe handgun bans are bad. What's the logic there?

A handgun ban, of course, would by definition take guns away from civilian owners.

On the same edition, Wagner hailed British colleague Martin Bashir and the British in general for being "intelligent" on gun control:

WAGNER: Martin, you're from the more intelligent side of the Earth --

[laughter from MARTIN BASHIR]

WAGNER: Where they have different gun control laws and I wonder what you make of America's cultural sort of fixation on --

BASHIR: You shouldn't be asking me, because the attacks that are going to come on Twitter and Facebook are going to be overwhelming.

WAGNER: Oh, come on, that's the whole point of this show!

The British, of course, have no written Constitution and no iron-clad protection of the right to keep and bear arms. The gun control regime in the UK is so restrictive that it is virtually impossible for private citizens to own firearms for home defense, and even when civilians use shotguns to defend their homes, they may find themselves facing prosecution for assault, as did farmer Tony Martin some years back.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; msnbc; secondamendment; secondamenment; wagner
Progressives lie. It is what they do. They feel no compunction or remorse about it, unless they get caught. Their only moral compass is: Does it advance the agenda?
1 posted on 01/12/2013 6:17:03 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Great post. The marxists are just prepping the battlefield for handgun control.


2 posted on 01/12/2013 6:25:08 AM PST by lodi90
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To: marktwain

“No one, anywhere, is talking about doing away with the Second Amendment, and no one, anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership,”

Stupid. Lying. POS.


3 posted on 01/12/2013 6:26:29 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: marktwain
On her Nov. 15, 2011 program, Wagner suggested she would like at the very least a ban on handguns:

That is the third step in the liberal gun confiscation agenda. First, ban so-called assault weapons. Then, when nothing changes in the gun violence rate, ban semi-auto weapons. Then, ban revolvers. And finally, tightly restrict long guns.

This is what Ben Shapiro was trying to get Piers Morgan to admit the other night - that the so-called assault weapons ban would have no measurable impact on gun violence and is just the first step. The liberals simply have learned to not be open about their real agenda. That is how conservatives should counter liberals - by making it clear that they are NOT being honest and that they are anti-gun and anti-self defense.

4 posted on 01/12/2013 6:31:45 AM PST by dirtboy
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"No one, anywhere, [was] talking about doing away with the [First] Amendment, and no one, anywhere [was] advocating stripping away [free speech]"..

but for decades the "Fairness Doctrine" said that free speech meant that the licensed broadcasting industry (individual radio stations) must offer air time for opposing viewpoints on controversial issues.. or else!

The First Amendment remained but conservative opinion was stifled simply by citizens' (liberal shills') complaints about "fairness" thus threatening the station owners' licenses..

a kinda of "Fairness Doctrine" approach would give the illusion that the Second Amendment was respected. All kinds of options are being discussed . . . .

The point is: "No one, anywhere, [was] talking about doing away with the [First] Amendment, and no one, anywhere [was] advocating stripping away [free speech]" but . . . .

5 posted on 01/12/2013 6:33:33 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Progressives lie. It is what they do.

Yep. That must never be forgotten. They have no honor. They feel no shame. Intellectual honesty is unknown to them.

Orwellian doublespeak wasn't a fantasy, it was a comment on the upside down bizarro world of Leftists.

6 posted on 01/12/2013 6:35:03 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Progressives lie. It is what they do.

But they do so incrementally. And it's not as if the kool aid swilling headnodders in the MSM are ever going to challenge them on it. In fact, the CIA mockingbirds who operate out of most of the big media outlets are ever quick to direct the editors, producers and reporters which stories are to be covered and which questions are to be allowed.

7 posted on 01/12/2013 6:41:11 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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They will eventually make the second amendment useless without repealing it....just have a series of weapons laws that make it financially impossible for the citizenry to exercise it! Death by a thousand cuts!!!


8 posted on 01/12/2013 7:19:21 AM PST by ontap
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Around 10 -15 years ago, economist and gun-rights author John Lott had a short conversation with Barry Obama at the University of Chicago law school, were both held positions. Obama came right out and told Lott that he didn’t think anybody should be allowed to own guns. Enough said.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 7:41:25 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------ The New Gold)
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She's backing up now. It's what liberals do when their canary ass is in trouble because of their alligator mouth
10 posted on 01/12/2013 7:57:28 AM PST by reefdiver
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So what? Just because they don’t officially scrap them doesn’t mean they will still follow them!!


11 posted on 01/12/2013 8:07:23 AM PST by CommieCutter
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In a fairly short period of time, pointing out the inconsistencies and lies of the Offical Spokespeople of the Administration (MSNBC) will be a felony offense, punishable by death or transportation to a FEMA work camp.

Seriously.

12 posted on 01/12/2013 8:22:33 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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