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1912 quote: "The next thing the federal government will try to do is tax our income."

To build a gigantic, overreaching octopus of a government, larded with bureaucrats, takes a lot of other people's money.

We are witnessing a dictatorial takeover by this administration .

1 posted on 01/13/2013 5:18:30 AM PST by IbJensen
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In other words- what the law actually says is not relevaant to enforcement. Companies will do as IRS bureaucrats decree, regardless of what the law says.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 5:21:20 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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If enough companies don’t comply, the IRS is in trouble.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 5:23:10 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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The “gestapo” press begins.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 5:30:30 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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8 posted on 01/13/2013 5:30:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Lower your shields. Surrender now. We will add your biological and intellectual substance to the collective. Resistance is futile.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 5:31:42 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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The coup of our country and the Supreme Court and Congress do nothing, care not a whit.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 5:32:22 AM PST by Hattie
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CUT OFF THE MONEY!!


11 posted on 01/13/2013 5:38:25 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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“It takes a long time to do necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put legislation together to control the people.” Rep. John Dingell (D-MI)


12 posted on 01/13/2013 5:39:22 AM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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Prepare for yet more layoffs, then!


13 posted on 01/13/2013 5:41:36 AM PST by dinodino
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This probably isn’t going to be popular, but remember that the IRS doesn’t make the rules, they enforce them.

This is apparently an evolving situation (make it up as they go along) such that as they see how various affected groups react, the noose gets tightened. The best hope, imho, is with the states, but I don’t know how much good that will do wrt the Treasury Dept. Does anyone doubt that 0bama is trying to force people out of business via Cloward-Piven?
I wouldn’t be surprised if paying the penalty instead of buying a policy isn’t eliminated or raised before it’s time.
We need to somehow treat this the same way we will treat the 2A. It *will* crash the economy because it will destroy so many vulnerable people, financially.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 5:43:43 AM PST by KGeorge (hoplophobia: n. irrational, morbid fear of guns. A mental disorder coined by Col. Jeff Cooper)
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More good times ahead.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 5:48:51 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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Wasn’t this a satire piece just yesterday?


19 posted on 01/13/2013 5:55:25 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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That is partly disinformation, partly nothing new. Today you cannot tell employees that they are independent contractors to avoid paying social security. This rule is no different; you can’t pretend employees are part time through creative bookkeeping when they are in fact full time. What the new decree from our overlords does not do is prevent the actual workaround that is being used. Wendy’s, Dominoes, and the rest can still limit hours to 29 per week and just hire more employees, as long as they are not hiring the same person through a different agency or to perform two different jobs.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 5:56:44 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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I wonder what happened to the waivers that 1000+ companies got. I think they were just for a year.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 5:58:12 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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Mandate backed by FORCE. Totalitarianism is on the march in the republic.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 6:01:59 AM PST by PGalt
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I would explore the route of subcontractors.

That is , if you are a burger joint, have a counter sales subcontractor. All those on the front line and at the window are employed by XYZ company. Those in production work for DEF company. The only people actually on the company payroll are managers.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 6:17:31 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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28 posted on 01/13/2013 6:19:41 AM PST by baddog 219
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... if an employer hires someone part-time, then uses an employment agency to bring the same person on for a second part-time shift

That is cheating. If you want the same person there for a complete-hour day, be prepared to pay the price.

The rest of the regulation is government interference, but this one part does require a low-moral decision by the employer.

31 posted on 01/13/2013 6:25:09 AM PST by Bernard (John Kerry as SOS will be the almost-perfect symbol of the Obama administration.)
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One of my favorite episodes of Little House on The Prairie, had an episode where a tax assessor was roaming the countryside looking at people’s property, before sending them a tax bill.

I remember Charles Ingalls saying, “I work at a loss for years only to have them take my profits on a good year.”

While waiting in line to contest the assessment, someone in the line says, “Next thing you know they’ll be taxing our incomes.”

Someone else in line responds, “That will never happen.”

Had they but lifted their rifles back then!


33 posted on 01/13/2013 6:27:41 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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The agency specified that employers could still fall under the mandate if they employ enough part-time workers to equal 50 full-time workers. For example, if an employer has 40 full-time workers and 20 part-time workers, that employer would be considered by the government to have 50 full-time workers and would be subject to the mandate because the 20 part-time workers average to 10 full-time workers – meeting the 50 full-time-worker threshold.

Interpretation of the IRS rules: Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee.

34 posted on 01/13/2013 6:35:07 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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