Piers Morgan exposes Dana Loesch’s lack of gun knowledge by making up models, calibers, deleting

twitchy.com ^ | 12 January, 2013 | Staff

[marktwain]

Dana Loesch’s calling out of CNN’s “real journalist” Piers Morgan over his error in categorizing the caliber of the Bushmaster rifle used in the Sandy Hook massacre might seem petty, aside from two reasons. First, Morgan believes he’s fully qualified to determine what weapons American citizens should and should not be allowed to own. Second, he himself wastes no opportunity to call out his detractors on their spelling errors, like so:

[combat_boots]

Re presence on the scene: If law enforcement arrived in 3-5 minutes, what did LEO do? Did LEO not enter the school at that time? If not, why not? Anyone killed after that 5 minute mark (maybe 6) could have been spared.

We are told that once the person saw police, he killed himself. If police dispatch #33 documents LEO arrival, why the comment that when seeing police, he killed himself? http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/16/gunman-adam-lanza-killed-himself-as-police-closed-in-shot-all-victims-multiple-times/

Re audio: A transcript is not audio.

People were killed. There are questions that I would want answered, were I a relative.

[Uncle Chip]

If law enforcement arrived in 3-5 minutes, what did LEO do

The chase up into the woods took place 3 minutes after the dispatch was made [9:36] and within seconds of arrival at the school [9:39--9:40].

At the same time [9:40] the LEOs were swarming the front entrance. It's right there in the dispatch. There is news video of this with the 9:40 timestamp.

He shot himself 6 minutes later at 9:46.

Re audio: A transcript is not audio.

There is audio at the link if you prefer that. Transcripts backed by audio with timestamps noted are better.

[OKSooner]

Yes, it's confusing and the reason it's confusing is because it ain't a mathematical conversion, as one might think.

Others around here will know certain terms better than me, but this here is the deal.

American cartridge and caliber designations are seldom a function of the EXACT bullet diameter. Perfect example is as you point out, the .223 Remington. This cartidge uses a bullet that's 5.56mm in diameter. However, when Remington began marketing this cartridge commercially it was called the .223 Remington instead of the 5.56 Nato for the American market.

Other examples: .38 Special uses a bullet that's .356 to .358 in diameter, or .357 - hence the cartidge designation .357 magnum when the .38 special was lengthened and "up-loaded" to magnum velocities.

.30-06 does not mean ".3006 of an inch in bullet diameter. It means "Thirty caliber cartidge of 1906, or .30-06 for short. (Bullet diameter is .308, not to be confused with the .308 Winchester, although it uses the same .308 bullet diamter.)

Uh, let's see here... oh yeah. .44 special and .44 magnum are acutally about .43 in diameter, or so I've heard.

.30-30 means ".30 caliber, originally loaded with 30 grains of black powder".

In a nutshell, American standard cartidge designations have as much to do with marketing from the original manufacturer as with any exacting technical specification. European, or metric designations tend to be more exacting, i.e. "5.56 x 45mm", which correctly describes the bullet diameter and cartridge length.

[Uncle Chip]

Interesting interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358

When this mother arrived at the school the six kids from Soto’s class were running away from the school, there was another mother there, the doors of Lanza’s car were open as if it had been searched, the glass next to the door into the school was broken where it had been shot out, and it was eerily quiet until shots rang out and kids started leaving the building.

[bert]

No, I can not find the TV report