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Soros’ liberal think-tank releases ‘demands’ for gun control
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 1/13/2012 | Cheryl Carpenter Klimek

Posted on 01/13/2013 9:48:49 AM PST by SmileRight

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To: SWAMPSNIPER

So is “military” grade better than “Match grade” or “custom grade”?


21 posted on 01/13/2013 12:22:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2; All
"Military grade" is just another made up buzz term but we'd better pin them down on what they want it to mean. It has nothing to do with quality.

Understand, they will try to make up new language to brainwash and program the mob.

22 posted on 01/13/2013 12:54:04 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SmileRight

Focus on WHY they want the guns.

WHAT do they want to do that they cannot, as long as we are armed?


23 posted on 01/13/2013 12:57:03 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Windflier
Here is the brief’s 13 point outline:

1. Better background checks

   1.1. Legislative proposals

      1.1.1. A background check for every gun sale
      1.1.2. Input all necessary records into the FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System
      1.1.3. Prevent convicted stalkers from acquiring guns
      1.1.4. Close the “terror gap”

   1.2. Executive action

      1.2.1. Penalize states that fail to provide records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System
      1.2.2. Ensure that federal agencies provide required records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System
      1.2.3. Perform background checks on employees of federally licensed dealers during the course of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives audit inspections

2. Take military-grade weapons off the streets and out of criminals’ hands

   2.1. Legislative proposals

      2.1.1. Re-regulate assault weapons
      2.1.2. Ban high-capacity gun magazines

   2.2. Executive action

      2.2.1. Require broader reporting of multiple sales of assault rifles

3. Better data, better coordination, and better enforcement

   3.1. Legislative proposals

      3.1.1. Strip riders from the administration’s fiscal year 2014 budget and all future budgets that restrict gun data collection and sharing
      3.1.2. Treat gun trafficking as a serious crime

   3.2. Executive action

      3.2.1. Begin the process of the FBI absorbing the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives


You may note that sections 1.1.2, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 2.2.1, and 3.1.1 form the nucleus of a gun registration system.

I see a glimmer of their "end game" here, if they can get "assault weapons" classified as NFA items and allow them to be grandfathered in with no excise tax applied. Many people will say why not, there is no down side. The pointy end of the stick comes later when you plan on leaving your trusty AR-15 to your son. Now you find out that effectively you may not transfer the registered firearm to your child. It must either be returned to the ATF for destruction or sold through a FFL licensed to buy and sell NFA items. Said dealer must reside in your state of residence. Since the ATF controls how many FNA class dealers are licensed, it isn't too much of a reach to expect to see the number decreasing yearly, as the number of guns defined as NFA items increases. Since gun owners can't bequeath them to the younger generation and may find difficulty in finding a NFA dealer, guns will gravitate back to ATF for destruction.

There is a way around this however. You form a revocable trust and give all your guns to your trust as trust assets. In the eyes of the law trusts are legal entities, just like people except they do not die. Trusts are also very discreet, they don't "register" with Federal or State governments, nor do they pay taxes. You become a trustee and are permitted to use trust assets as you see fit. When time grows short, you name your son (or daughter) or both as trustees and they continue the family trust ad infinitum.

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 01/13/2013 2:25:20 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: SmileRight; humblegunner

I see you still haven’t responded to my question as to whether you’re the author of this article. It’s been four hours since I asked, and five hours since you posted the thread.

You also haven’t responded to any of the other comments on the thread, ninety percent of which are directed to you.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 2:51:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Thanks for posting the pertinent data from the article, Gandalf. It seems the original poster would rather everyone click through to the article to find it, instead of posting it here.

I wonder why...?


26 posted on 01/13/2013 2:54:08 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dljordan
And who is Soros puppet master?


27 posted on 01/13/2013 2:55:18 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Windflier; SmileRight

Well, lookee here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:smileright/index?tab=articles

Sure has a propensity from posting from a single source and a single “author”.

Also a tendency to post as “news”, and in excerpted form.

I’m thinking serial blogpimp here.

Self-promoting and shameless.

Bad form, that.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 2:58:17 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: dljordan

Good question. I don’t know. Tell me.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 3:01:54 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: SmileRight

Wishing the very desease if not worse that has joyfully infected Hugo chavez on his old wrinkled decrepid a##


30 posted on 01/13/2013 3:05:11 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: humblegunner

Good catch!


31 posted on 01/13/2013 3:05:20 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: humblegunner
I’m thinking serial blogpimp here. Self-promoting and shameless. Bad form, that.

100% agreed.

32 posted on 01/13/2013 3:20:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
It seems the original poster would rather everyone click through to the article to find it, instead of posting it here. I wonder why...?

Thank you, maybe he was too lazy to figure out the HTML to post an outline? I have to admit, I didn't get it right off the bat either.

Regards,
GtG

33 posted on 01/13/2013 3:27:03 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
...maybe he was too lazy to figure out the HTML to post an outline?

Doubt it. See humblegunner's post 28.

34 posted on 01/13/2013 3:29:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: snoringbear

“Good question. I don’t know. Tell me.”

I wish I knew. You don’t get that much power without collusion amongst like minds. Someone would have taken him down by now if they didn’t agree with what he’s doing. Maybe he’s just the public face of something bigger.

Or for the people who don’t believe in conspiracies, ‘he did it his way’.


35 posted on 01/13/2013 4:08:23 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: SmileRight

The worst thing about these proposals is that there is defacto registration through collecting all NICS data. You know, the data they said they would never collect.

The assault ban and hi-cap mag legislation SHOULD be doa in the house.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 4:20:04 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: dljordan

Well, guess we could go bibical if so inclined. Who did “Nicolae Carpathia” work for :) ?


37 posted on 01/13/2013 4:28:38 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: EdReform

bookmark


38 posted on 01/13/2013 4:32:37 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: SmileRight

I demand Soros take a sweet kiss right between the eyes.


39 posted on 01/13/2013 4:34:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: snoringbear

Soros

Friend of Facists and Nazis.

Do you think He has armed Guards?


40 posted on 01/13/2013 5:29:54 PM PST by LtKerst
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