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Hawks on Iraq Prepare for War Again, Against Hagel
The New York Times ^ | 1/12/2013 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 01/14/2013 1:32:15 AM PST by darrellmaurina

In the bitter debate that led up to the American invasion of Iraq in 2003, Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska said that some of his fellow Republicans, in their zest for war, lacked the perspective of veterans like him, who have “sat in jungles or foxholes and watched their friends get their heads blown off.”

Those Republicans in turn called him an “appeaser” whose cautious geopolitical approach dangerously telegraphed weakness in the post-Sept. 11 world.

The campaign now being waged against Mr. Hagel’s nomination as secretary of defense is in some ways a relitigation of that decade-old dispute. It is also a dramatic return to the public stage by the neoconservatives whose worldview remains a powerful undercurrent in the Republican Party and in the national debate about the United States’ relationship with Israel and the Middle East.

To Mr. Hagel’s allies, his presence at the Pentagon would be a very personal repudiation of the interventionist approach to foreign policy championed by the so-called Vulcans in the administration of President George W. Bush, who believed in pre-emptive strikes against potential threats and the promotion of democracy, by military means if necessary.

“This is the neocons’ worst nightmare because you’ve got a combat soldier, successful businessman and senator who actually thinks there may be other ways to resolve some questions other than force,” said Richard L. Armitage, who broke with the more hawkish members of the Bush team during the Iraq war when he was a deputy to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hagel; israel; obama; senate

1 posted on 01/14/2013 1:32:28 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Eleutheria5; Jewbacca; MestaMachine; justiceseeker93

Can this get pinged to some of the Jewish/pro-Israel lists? Not sure who runs those lists on Free Republic.


2 posted on 01/14/2013 1:37:05 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: SJackson
OK, just found the Israel ping list owner. Can you ping this due to the issues between Hagel and Israel?
3 posted on 01/14/2013 1:40:23 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; SJackson

The premiere pinger on things Jewish.


4 posted on 01/14/2013 1:42:16 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 1:42:24 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: darrellmaurina

There are other ways to approach these problems says Neville Chamberlain


6 posted on 01/14/2013 3:01:56 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: darrellmaurina

I really don’t care for Hagel, but he was right on this one!


7 posted on 01/14/2013 3:03:19 AM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: rashley

I dunno.
Where is it written that the US must FIRST win the damn war, then LOSE the peace?
EVERY TIME??


8 posted on 01/14/2013 3:15:08 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: Flintlock

We don’t always win the war, if that makes you feel better.


9 posted on 01/14/2013 4:06:56 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: ballplayer

Thank God Chamberlain was replaced, so that Britain didn’t lose its empire, cede control of its foreign policy to foreigners, go into massive debt, accelerate the Welfare State, and allow totalitarian evildoers to occupy half of Europe. Oh, wait, that’s exactly what happened.


10 posted on 01/14/2013 4:11:31 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Thanks to FDR for having a big part in all of that. With the biggest part by the British electorate, of course.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 4:40:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tublecane

Thats right,Chamberlains Heirs took Care of that


12 posted on 01/14/2013 4:44:03 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: All; SJackson; MestaMachine; Eleutheria5
More on Hagel. The Pentagon is apparently now weighing in on this:

Pentagon begins campaign to bust ‘myths’ about nominee Hagel
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/13/pentagon-campaigns-bust-myths-about-hagel/

13 posted on 01/14/2013 4:44:22 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Tublecane

Will Hagel be any worse than the other commie DaFence Secretary Panetta? BTW when have the Republican Hawks ever been right about anything aka Libya/Syria/Mali clusterfux.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 4:46:36 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: darrellmaurina

If Hagel lacked the wherewithal to be an officer in Vietnam, he certainly can not be trusted with command of DOD


15 posted on 01/14/2013 4:49:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: iopscusa

What troubles me most is they’re all but silent on Kerry, of all people, while at eachother’s throats over Hagel. It’s almost as if Dems planned it that way, without the “it’s almost as if” part. A Pub running defense who doesn’t want war with Iran is like your wife sleeping with your brother to some people. We usually call them neoconservarives. I prefer the less confusing term imperialists.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 4:58:57 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: darrellmaurina

The Pentago does whatever Obama tells them to do.


17 posted on 01/14/2013 5:24:28 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Tublecane

You are right.

Kerry is a POS from the word go, but for some reason theylike him. Maybe he buys the drinks at the Senate bar often.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 5:25:59 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Tublecane

Yeah, I expect the commie Senate to let sKerry skate through confirmation just as they did Panetta. Even shitstained Demint’s office lied about his vote to confirm Panetta!


19 posted on 01/14/2013 5:47:35 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Venturer

“....but for some reason theylike him”...

Free catshup.


20 posted on 01/14/2013 5:49:00 AM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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21 posted on 01/14/2013 6:04:24 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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22 posted on 01/14/2013 6:04:47 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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23 posted on 01/14/2013 6:05:55 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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What’s the author’s FR nick?

Thanks darrellmaurina.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 6:23:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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