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Guns already allowed in schools with little restriction in many states
Open Channel NBC News ^ | January 14, 2013 | M. Alex Johnson, staff writer, NBC News

Posted on 01/14/2013 10:47:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip

With the debate over gun violence reshaped by the shooting deaths of 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school last month, lawmakers across the country are pushing proposals to arm teachers in the classroom. But many of them may be wasting their time.

More than a third of the states already allow teachers and other adults to carry guns to school. In most cases, all you need is the equivalent of a note from the principal — you usually don't even need law enforcement approval.

NBC News reviewed the firearms and education laws in all 50 states and found that 18 of them allow adults to have a loaded gun on school grounds, usually as long as they have written permission.

That's for pretty much any reason; the list doesn't include states that generally ban guns but carve out narrow exceptions for specific activities like safety demonstrations or military formations and parades.

During a Tea Party forum in Fort Worth, Texas Gov. Rick Perry became one of the first prominent officials after the Dec. 14 shootings to call for teachers to be allowed to carry firearms to work — even though Texas already allows any qualified adult to do so as long as the principal OKs it.

Since then, lawmakers in several states have jumped on board with proposals that mirror laws already on the books.

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Connecticut (with approval of "school officials")

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/14/2013 10:48:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

How does this interface with the federal Gun Free School Zone Act? That keeps even off duty law enforcement from carrying a gun in school.


2 posted on 01/14/2013 11:06:10 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
That keeps even off duty law enforcement from carrying a gun in school.

If that is true - no body bothered informing law enforcement in Virginia.

3 posted on 01/14/2013 11:15:25 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: USNBandit

Interesting question.

My secret service friend carries his gun everywhere, including on school property and at school sporting events here in Texas.


4 posted on 01/14/2013 11:21:18 AM PST by Ironfocus
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To: USNBandit
The fed GFSZ allows the administration of the school to allow any one they want to carry. Have gun shows in school gun training and so forth
5 posted on 01/14/2013 11:21:25 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Gabz

I guess it would depend on Virginia state laws for CCW and off duty law enforcement. The Law Enforcement Officer’s Safety Act, which allows off duty and retired law enforcement to carry across state lines doesn’t cover them from carrying in prohibited public “gun free zones.”


6 posted on 01/14/2013 11:28:20 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hey! Everyone should start their own private schools in those states and automatically you are armed. Or is the Fed gonna
discriminate for non-equal educational opportunity?


7 posted on 01/14/2013 11:37:02 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ( duhhhh)
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To: USNBandit

I’m not talking off duty LEO - I am talking about armed sheriff’s deputies on duty in the schools.

As for CCW’s - my husband can not carry his weapon into the school building, but can have it on him on school grounds, as long as he locks it in the vehicle when entering the building.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 11:56:28 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Uncle Chip
But many of them may be wasting their time. More than a third of the states already allow teachers and other adults to carry guns to school.

Or, to put it another way, ALMOST 2/3RD DO NOT.

So if you randomly pick a state and ask it to pass a new law allowing guns in school, you are twice as likely to be fixing the problem, than you are to be "wasting your time".

on the other hand, if you limited your actions to states where there have been actual mass gun attacks in schools, you'd pretty much be sure to be NOT wasting your time.

9 posted on 01/14/2013 12:01:51 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: USNBandit
Gun Free School Zone Act exempts those licensed to carry concealed. In many jurisdictions, off duty and retired police are licensed by default.
10 posted on 01/14/2013 7:40:47 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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