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How Democrats might get to 'yes' on gun control
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | January 15, 2013 | David Grant

Posted on 01/15/2013 12:15:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

If President Obama and congressional Democrats are going to make headway on the gun violence proposals Vice President Joe Biden is set to deliver to the president on Tuesday, their strategy will probably look a lot like gun-owning Rep. Mike Thompson – and move with the energy and purpose of political cage fighter Rahm Emanuel.

Representative Thompson (D) of California remembers where he was on Dec. 14, the day of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. He was in a duck blind, back home in his Napa Valley district.

“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,” Thompson said Monday at the liberal Center for American Progress (CAP). “So federal law provides more protection for the ducks than it does” for people, he said, referring to ammunition magazines that can hold 30 or more bullets.

Thompson, chairman of a Democratic committee charged with making recommendations for new “gun violence prevention” measures (Democrats want no part of being pro-“gun control”), is emblematic of the central plank of Democrats’ strategic approach to gun control: put on a friendly face.

Both Thompson and Mr. Biden, the leader of the president’s own task force, are lifelong gun owners who are quick to point out that no, the federal government is absolutely not coming to seize your arms...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; democrats; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
Of course not! It's for the children, blah, blah, blah...
1 posted on 01/15/2013 12:15:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bribery and Pork the same way everything gets passed in Washington!
2 posted on 01/15/2013 12:20:14 PM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you’ve put Joe Biden in charge of anything, it’s destined to fail by design or through Biden’s incompetence.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 12:20:24 PM PST by relictele
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Representative Thompson (D) of California remembers where he was on Dec. 14, the day of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. He was in a duck blind, back home in his Napa Valley district.

Fascinating. Please note however, that the topic under discussion isn't hunting. The topic is the Right To Keep and Bear Arms. Because sometimes people need to rise up against tyranny. Like when political elites try to take our guns. That's when the guns become really important. Anyway, Mr Representative -- you were saying ...?

4 posted on 01/15/2013 12:20:42 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Get” to yes? These are practically fighting words for me. “Getting To Yes” is Cass Sunstein’s second or third book, I think, on manipulation & exploitation. I detest this SOB. I don’t know if he coined the term “get” or not, but I will always associate it with him now.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 12:27:44 PM PST by KGeorge (hoplophobia: n. irrational, morbid fear of guns. A mental disorder coined by Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they pass this it is going to be SOOOOOO much fun watching all the anguish and the Monday morning quarterbacking after they get their heads handed to them in the ‘14 midterms.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 12:30:31 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If memory serves, the guy who shot up Sandy Hook was not a duck.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 12:31:41 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,”

Wrong! Law restricts you to 3 rounds for HUNTING and there needs to be a block in the tube to keep you down to 3.

My Remington 870 tactical doesn’t even have a plug and it has an extended tube, allowing me to lord with one on the chamber and 6 in the tube. If I ever want to hunt with it, I’ll put a wooden dowel in the tube.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 12:33:42 PM PST by Gator113 (I voted for "love of country".... this mess if your fault.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"If they pass this it is going to be SOOOOOO much fun watching all the anguish and the Monday morning quarterbacking after they get their heads handed to them in the ‘14 midterms."

Did you mean, "in a basket" ?

9 posted on 01/15/2013 12:35:19 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reagan was shot......I don’t recall him calling for gun control.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 12:35:44 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Gator113

I guess I shouldn’t have used the word “wrong”. But hunting shouldn’t even have a place in this conversation.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 12:37:07 PM PST by Gator113 (I voted for "love of country".... this mess if your fault.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....federal law provides more protection for the ducks than it does for people, he said”

It’s not to protect the ducks, you nitwit, it’s to minimize skyblasting.

The logic of his nitwittery is that limiting magazine capacity will help protect the lives of crooks!

What a maROON!!!


12 posted on 01/15/2013 12:38:07 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Because sometimes people need to rise up against tyranny.”

Obama supports the people of Libya, Egypt, and Syria right to own and use assault weapons, but not his own citizens.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 12:38:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Democrats might get to 'yes' on gun control

I would like to print this out on a baseball bat and beat my gun owning friends that voted democrat and swore up and down that democrats were now pro-gun and the gun grabbers were a small minority who had "learned their lesson" after the 1994 AWB. This was all too well planned out, all these gun control bill just happening to be written and ready to go for just the right "crisis". This has been in the works for a long, long time. If we survive this with a majority of our gun rights intact I hope these people NEVER FORGET.

14 posted on 01/15/2013 12:38:44 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Democrats might get to 'yes' on gun control

Dear Mr./Ms. Democrat: How many law-abiding American citizens are you willing to kill, by yourself, up close and personal, to achieve your gun control objectives?

15 posted on 01/15/2013 12:41:05 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: apillar
Both Thompson and Mr. Biden, the leader of the president’s own task force, are lifelong gun owners who are quick to point out that no, the federal government is absolutely not coming to seize your arms.

Cough...Cough...where have I been lied too like that recently (under Obamacare you will absolutely NOT lose your current health insurance plan). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

16 posted on 01/15/2013 12:45:42 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,” Thompson said Monday at the liberal Center for American Progress (CAP). “So federal law provides more protection for the ducks than it does” for people, he said, referring to ammunition magazines that can hold 30 or more bullets.

So you are being assaulted by four thugs but can only legally have three rounds in your shotgun? Remind me again who the law is protecting?

17 posted on 01/15/2013 12:49:06 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Gator113

That is correct. The law is if you are hunting that ridiculous dowel must be in the tube to limit the number rounds in the tube to three.

You can have all the shells you want in it if you are not hunting.

I don’t understand that retarded law at all.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 12:49:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: elcid1970

Huh?


19 posted on 01/15/2013 12:51:01 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Puppage
And he was shot with a Röhm 6 shot .22 revolver....

No high capacity mag...No "assault" weapon.

20 posted on 01/15/2013 12:53:26 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“So federal law provides more protection for the ducks than it does” for people, he said, referring to ammunition magazines that can hold 30 or more bullets.

That statement by the distinguished gentleman from California might carry a little more weight if he can cite but one historical example of ducks forming a tyranny and subjugating men. Just one.

21 posted on 01/15/2013 12:57:34 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Memo to the Communist in the White House: The 2nd Amendment is not negotiable!
And just like the soulless, commie, POS that he is, he will use the innocent children for his crusade to the Holy Land of Gun Control. I would love to see a cartoon of “King Obama” sending the “Innocents” on a crusade just like the doomed children in the 12th century. I can't draw, but maybe someone will pick this up.
22 posted on 01/15/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"That statement by the distinguished gentleman from California might carry a little more weight if he can cite but one historical example of ducks forming a tyranny and subjugating men. Just one."

Do these ducks count? They have subjugated the PAC 12.



Sorry, couldn't resist.
23 posted on 01/15/2013 1:10:10 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: derSchurfer
What a guy


24 posted on 01/15/2013 1:16:52 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They can "get to yes" any way they want...they can have a freakin' CIRCLE JERK while chanting "yes" if they want to. My answer is NO.
25 posted on 01/15/2013 1:18:41 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Both Thompson and Mr. Biden, the leader of the president’s own task force, are lifelong gun owners who are quick to point out that no, the federal government is absolutely not coming to seize your arms...

It's always good to remember that the government tends to do the opposite of what they say.

In other words, they broadcast their intentions in the negative.

26 posted on 01/15/2013 1:19:09 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Gator113
Law restricts you to 3 rounds for HUNTING...

Depends upon what you are hunting. Here in Texas any non-game species (hogs, coyotes, any imported game, etc) can be hunted without restrictions of any kind.

27 posted on 01/15/2013 1:21:04 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 1968 laws were not deemed onerous by most gun owners and have been followed without real contest.

When they criminalize possession of regular semi-automatics, the increase in illegal weapons will skyrocket. Why go to jail for dad’s old AR, when you can get the same sentence for a modern full-auto?


28 posted on 01/15/2013 1:24:57 PM PST by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,”

Federal law prohibits people from disturbing a nest of an endangered bird. Which is more than it does for unborn human babies.

29 posted on 01/15/2013 1:27:45 PM PST by techcor
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“His own citizens”

He acts like those countries contain his citizens. Not us. The man acts like a conqueror.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 1:32:11 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: TexasRedeye

I think its the same here for non-game critters. Of course, the closest thing we get to a wild hog Washington state, is when a lesbian passes through town.

God Bless Texas.....


31 posted on 01/15/2013 1:38:51 PM PST by Gator113 (I voted for "love of country".... this mess if your fault.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,”

Ducks don't shoot back or kick in your door in the middle of the night, Dumbass.

32 posted on 01/15/2013 1:42:53 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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Of course, the closest thing we get to a wild hog Washington state, is when a lesbian passes through town.

We have an estimated 3.5 million of them - hogs that is, lesbians aren't counted!

33 posted on 01/15/2013 2:07:50 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: combat_boots

Yep, first Libya and Egypt, and Syria, then the US. Funny that he doesn’t seem to want to conquer Afghanistan.


34 posted on 01/15/2013 2:10:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“If they pass this it is going to be SOOOOOO much fun watching all the anguish and the Monday morning quarterbacking after they get their heads handed to them in the ‘14 midterms.”

That won't happen. Most of the conservative voters who are gun owners will have been MURDERED by the gov’t by then because they wouldn't register/turn in their firearms/magazines.

A terrible purge is coming and most of us won't live to see another election.

35 posted on 01/15/2013 2:19:30 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Federal law prohibits me from having more than three shells in my shotgun,” Thompson said Monday at the liberal Center for American Progress (CAP). “So federal law provides more protection for the ducks than it does” for people, he said, referring to ammunition magazines that can hold 30 or more bullets. “

Hey idiot, the 2nd Amendment ain’t about duck hunting. Now go back to your golfing with guns.


36 posted on 01/15/2013 2:48:57 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

***** “after they get their heads handed to them in the ‘14 midterms.” *****

You are a hell of a lot more optimistic than I am.

TT


37 posted on 01/15/2013 2:55:35 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

38 posted on 01/15/2013 3:04:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: derSchurfer
And just like the soulless, commie, POS that he is, he will use the innocent children for his crusade to the Holy Land of Gun Control.

Good point. Kind of reminds me of the terrorists using children as cover when attacking people.
39 posted on 01/15/2013 3:05:53 PM PST by microgood
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To: Vendome

I believe the 3 shell limit is for migratory birds, dove, duck and geese, and there is no restriction for other game at least in most states. It is federal law.


40 posted on 01/15/2013 3:57:00 PM PST by duffee (In need of new tag line)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can shoot people with shotguns, too, you unbelievable moron.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 4:21:50 PM PST by Tublecane
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