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To: chris37
You did, of course, try the term 'people', right?

The Second does two things ~ it recognizes that the entire class of people are noblemen. Secondly, it prohibits the federal government from abridging their rights ~ as noblemen.

Remember, power flows up from the bottom in America. Everyone is a nobleman. They all live in states. The state's exercise the sovereign powers of states as they are identified in the Peace of Westphalia (and as ratified in the Treaty of Paris 1783). The states act through an agent called the Federal government to effectuate foreign affairs, and interstate commerce.

Which means that ALL rights are collective rights and individual rights ~ but the Federal government has only limited powers or rights and they are enumerated!

46 posted on 01/19/2013 12:36:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No, I only did “collective”, as that is a term that is not associated with the founding of this country in any way.

It is however a term that is associated with the downfall of this country.

Similarly, power no longer flows fromt he bottom up. Rather it flows from the government to the government. People are given the illusion of power via their vote, but I believe that power is nothing more than an illusion.

And regarding all rights being collective rights and individual rights, that may well be true, however we have a substantial number of people who bear those very rights that also deny them.

Sadly, some of the stupidest people on the face of the earth and in the history of man populate America in 2013.


66 posted on 01/19/2013 8:21:42 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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