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There was no GOP entitlement-cutting plan
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/19/2013 | Byron York

Posted on 01/19/2013 7:56:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: cripplecreek

I don’t beleive for a minute that if they cut socialist security they would not move the money saved to the even bigger sinkhole known as socialized health care.

There is no way this government is ever going to get serious about not wasting money and going into debt to do it. They broke out of the limits of the constitution and the sky is the limit. What goes up, must come down.

Let it crash. Then start over with constitutional limits on federal activity for a change. The government is a monster and cutting one unconstitutional activity will just lead to more spending on another unconstitutional thing.


21 posted on 01/19/2013 10:26:58 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind

During the past four years, we have spent approximately six trillion dollars more than we have taken in. That deficit spending has not been for social security or medicare. While those programs do pose a future problem, we have a more immediate concern that needs to be addressed first. If we don’t deal with our our of control non social security spending, fixing social security will not save us.

It is as if our house is on fire and also has an infestation of termites. Does it do any good to bring in an exterminator if we don’t put out the fire first.


22 posted on 01/19/2013 10:28:56 PM PST by etcb
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see them put their money where their mouth is: cut salaries and staff for all elected officials. And eliminate tax-supported pensions for the same.

It would save a mere pittance compared to other wastefull government programs, but it would show that they *meant* it when they talked reform.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 11:41:11 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ae you ready for Speaker Pelosi Part 2 yet? Boehner and his gang of Whigs have guaranteed it for 2014. 2010 was a directive from the people to cut spending. NOT ONE CENT HAS BEEN CUT. So, why bother having this gang of Do-nthng, spineless cowards run the House?

Boehner should have been ousted when he made his ridiculous “we only control 1/6th of the government” comment. Whigs are totally incapable of running anything except their mouths.

I would ask that everyone refer to the former Republicans as Whigs and get behind the formation of a national TEA Party. I propose three plain ideas as core beliefs:
1. Adherance to the Constitution in all things;
2. Massive reduction, reorganization and responsive government; and
3. Rededication to our Judeo-Christian principles.


24 posted on 01/20/2013 2:09:25 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SeekAndFind
According to the Weekly Standard, the GOP secretly agreed last year to gut the military.

Conservatives have been betrayed.

As Bob Woodward recounted in his book on the debt-ceiling negotiations of 2011, The Price of Politics, Krone traveled with Reid to the White House that summer during the intense debate over extending the debt limit. In the Oval Office, Reid began explaining the outline of a $2.7 trillion debt limit extension before turning it over to Krone to explain the details. Reid’s plan included another round of defense cuts that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell had “secretly pledged to honor.”

Shame on the GOP. There is to be NO entitlement reform, and the sequestration cuts (where the military is 18% of the budget yet takes 50% of the cuts) still loom.

25 posted on 01/20/2013 4:05:16 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

American were played by Obama and the GOP.

Soros and other nonAmericans
(Romney’s and Obama’s partners)
now control what is left of the USA.

America is a bankrupt nation where the Law
only depends on skin color, religion and connections.


26 posted on 01/20/2013 4:22:35 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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Of the three things mentioned...only Medicaid is a true entitlement....the others are really “pay into” programs....and that will be political suicide for any politican to cut SSec and Medicare

When Reagan and the GOP made an honest push to address these issues....the backlash was severe...even from Reagan supporters. Note that there were fewer on SS and HCare back then compared to now

The best way to curtail SS and MCare spending is to allow some private seperate investments for those not yet collecting....and no Illegal Alien Amnesty

Anyone supporting Illegal Alien Amnesty...in any form....is just asking for the SS and MCare system to be greatly expanded. No one supporting Illegal Alien Amnesty can claim they are for less government spending


27 posted on 01/20/2013 5:11:52 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: SaraJohnson

That’s the Washington way.

My congressman sought a $50 million cut in funding for the national endowment for the arts. By the time it made it through committee and all the amendments were voted on it was only a $20 million cut and the annual increases were raised so they’ll end up getting even more money than the current $125 million per year.

The real problem isn’t enough money for government but too much.


28 posted on 01/20/2013 5:11:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Amnesty is nothing but government growth hormone.

30 million illegals is enough to create some 50 odd congressional districts (mostly democrat) and all the expenses incurred as well as all spending voted on.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 5:15:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Diogenesis

“America is a bankrupt nation where the Law
only depends on skin color, religion and connections.”

Sounds like the South after Reconstruction. The post Civil War economy was bankrupt, whites suppressed blacks with Jim Crow laws, one party ruled while a very few wealthy landowners and factory owners suppressed poor whites. Company stores were a vehicle for shackling workers with debt they could never repay so they could not leave the mill. The few Jews in southern towns who were not extremely wealthy were shunned and despised by the dominant Christians. The Klan ran free, persecuting blacks and whites who showed sympathy for blacks. The local sheriff served as the enforcer for the few wealth aristocrats. Anyone bucking the system could expect punishment rendered outside the due process of law.

Come to think of it, the situation wasn’t much different in the North. Union bosses and political machines dominated the cities. There was no real political opposition at the local level. Average citizens, including women and children, worked long hours in factories, enduring oppressive working conditions for wages that barely put food on the table and paid the rent for a tiny squalid tenement apartment. Catholics and Jews were despised for their religious beliefs by the dominant Protestant Christians. The national government persecuted native Americans the West while the railroads brought in cheap Chinese labor. Wealth financiers and industrials owned Congress and the President.

One might argue most citizens today have more freedom, and better lives, in the USA than average citizens in the last quarter of the 19th century and first quarter of the 20th century.


30 posted on 01/20/2013 5:24:12 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Diogenesis
Americans were played by Obama and the GOP.

I used to have faith that at some Republicans would fight for what is right.

What have we seen?

The GOP politicians in New York agreed with Comrade Cuomo and passed his fascist "gun control" agenda in the middle of the night.

The Republican party has abandoned the United States military and is now playing second fiddle to the Democrats as to who can bankrupt the country the fastest by spooning out "checks" to the lazy, the illegals, and the self declared entitled.

I have prayed to God for this nation and her leaders. My only hope is that God has mercy on America, because it does not seem like we have very much time left.

31 posted on 01/20/2013 9:17:07 AM PST by SkyPilot
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