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To: BlackElk

You are in the wrong movement

“Beef up social security and medicare”

The only way to do is via generational theft, coercion by the government and the consent of the sheep who are now being slaughtered.

You are simply a statist, just like the current White House occupant, but want the state to legislate things you like.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 6:15:40 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
I am in the right movement, the conservative movement. I have been a state chairman of Young Republicans, Young Americans for Freedom, College Republicans, and of the state affiliate of the American Conservative Union, a member of the national executive committee of Young Republican National Federation and a member of the College Republican National Committee. As a state chairman of YAF, I would not allow national literature calling for abolition of Social Security to be distributed in my state. I was a state officer of the Libertarian Party before I grew up upon reading Roe vs. Wade and seeing the "libertarian" response thereto.

I was a Republican nominee for US Congress the year I graduated law school. Most importantly, I was state chairman of Ronald Reagan's challenge to worthless Gerald Ford as Ayn Rand had a pro-Ford nervous breakdown because Reagan was running as a pro-lifer (see the Ayn Rand Letters of 1976), thereby embarrassing herself by revealing her real hierarchy of "values." I also had a low-ranking staff position as a driver for Reagan's 1968 campaign at the GOP national convention when he sought the GOP POTUS nomination in 1968 before I was even a member of any of the above-cited organizations.

Now, if you think that abolishing Social Security and Medicare are positions that whatever movement you imagine yourself part of should go to domestic war for, welcome to the Libertarian Party and its traditional ceiling of 1% of the vote. You might want to tear down socialist abominations such as the light houses and let the socialist National Defense Highway System rot into ruins rather than offend the sensibilities of long-dead libertarian sages such as Lysander Spooner (himself a gummint postmaster but never mind).

Generational theft??? You forgot to also whine about another Sean Hannity favorite: CLASS WARFARE!!! (lions and tigers and bears, oh my!!!). Actually class warfare is OK with Sean so long as it is a one-way war in which the folks don't fight back. George Washington (rumored to be a Founding Father) warned that government could be a fearful master. And more than two hundred years later you are surprised, surprised, surprised!!! Puhleeze!

Other examples of my statism: I and the 13th Amendment are opposed to re-establishing slavery. I and the 14th Amendment oppose the slaughter of 55 million innocent babies in utero. I and Judaeo-Christian civilization (and ost other civilizations) bitterly cling to the old notion that each marriage is between one man and one woman (no fudgepackers, no twelvesomes, no pestering the household pets or farm animals, no liaisons with space aliens). Reactionary!!! Just the kind of boy I am.

I shall gladly join with others to abolish Obozocare (not least because it REQUIRES persecution of my Catholic Faith [and other pro-life faiths] and its [their] institutions by forcing the Church and its members who are employers to pay for abortion and contraception coverage even for elderly and senile nuns) for a wide variety of reasons which cannot be fixed. If you want to abolish Medicare and Social Security, I am NOT jumping on board without considering available alternatives now that my life (and many other people's lives) is/are organized with both in mind.

BTW, Roe vs. Wade was fedgov COERCION, forcing state toleration of the mass slaughter of 55 million unborn infants to date and counting, a generational theft of their very lives for the convenience of their amoral and immoral elders, and certainly without the consent of the unborn who are the actual sheep slaughtered by surgical dismemberment in the womb. The absence of the aborted has impoverished us all, financially and otherwise. Would you join Ebenezer Scrooge by classifying the innocents as folks who then need to hurry up and die for your convenience and that of others???

To paraphrase your last paragraph: You are simply an airhead just like the current White House occupant (though far less practical or likely to make public policy) but want the state to live out your ideological fantasies and devil take the hindmost.

As Bill Buckley once said of one time showgirl and First Lady Betty Ford's views quite similar to your own views, you have not thought this through and you leave us to wonder whether you are capable of thinking it through.

33 posted on 01/24/2013 4:44:44 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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