Republicans are Scared to Death of Obama Because He Wins by Demonizing Opponents

RUSH: This Tom Brokaw and Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, and this is yesterday on the Today show. They're on there with Matt Lauer and they are celebrating. They're celebrating because they think the Republicans have given up, and they're right. Everybody's giving up. My impression is that everybody is giving up and they're waiting for events that nobody can predict to maybe change the direction that we're headed; events that nobody can predict that will stop Obama in his tracks; events that'll happen that will wake people up.

The sense I get is that there's no point in opposing because we're only gonna be hated. There's no point in pointing out where Obama's making a mistake, transforming the country in a bad way, 'cause that's only gonna make us hated and disliked; people aren't gonna like it. We don't want to be hated and disliked. We lost. That's what happens when you lose. The winners get to do whatever they want, and we'll just wait for some unknown series of events, and we'll pray that something karma related will come along and save us, bail us out. That's what I sense is where much of what you would think would be opposition to this in Washington is. First off, Andrea Mitchell.

MITCHELL: It's been so toxic that I think the president is betting that the American people -- it's clear in our polls -- the people are ready fed up with this and that it will be in the Republican Party's advantage to play somewhat toward getting something done. You saw that in Williamsburg, Virginia, with the House caucus last week when Paul Ryan steered the party and the more radical elements of the Tea Party which supported him toward some sort of compromise short term, at least on the debt ceiling.

RUSH: Yeah, let's not oppose anything. Oh, my God, just let Obama have what he wants. You know, people are fed up with us. The Republicans are running around, I think they actually think everybody hates them. Voters, not just Republican supporters, donors, everybody. So the president's betting the American people are fed up with the Republicans. The best thing the Republicans can do is just be invisible and just let Obama have his way. And, of course why wouldn't the media do this? The media has succeeded in making the Republicans think that criticizing Obama is gonna irritate independents, while Romney was winning independents in double digits in five of the eight battleground states. The reason the Republicans lost the election is because they didn't turn out their base.

Let's grab Ivan, Virginia Beach. I'm glad you called, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: I just wanted to point out one line that really stuck out to me in this whole speech. I'm paraphrasing, but basically Obama said, "Now is not the time to solve the question, the centuries old question of the role of government, but to solve our current problems now." And to me it's a great sleight of hand because he's kind of pushing the conservatives off to the side while at the same time ignoring the fact that the role of the government is actually the central issue, whether you're talking about the debt, gun control, gay marriage, whatever, it's the role of the federal government that that's the real issue.

RUSH: The centuries old problem over the role of government is exactly the problem. It makes total sense that Obama would want to shove it aside. Look, let's shelve the debate over whether government should be big or not so that I can go ahead and transform this country while nobody's paying attention. And let's go ahead and argue about solving the problems the way I want to solve 'em, because everybody's agreed not to oppose me. So let's just get rid of the negatives that attach to me, and the Republicans are saying, "Okay, if you don't want to talk about the negatives attached to you, we won't." So he's basically asking for a clear road, and he's being given one.

RUSH: I think, actually, that Obama believes that the role of government's already been solved. We've got Obamacare. We have the Julia commercial. I think he believes that he's now convinced a majority of Americans that the government should be the central focus of everybody's life in terms of their needs and their wants and their safety and security. You go to government for it. I think he's already succeeded at that. The role of government has been debated, voted on, and solved, and he won. And so Obama basically in his speech yesterday was calling for us to become a country of the government, by the government, and for the government. With him and his buddies in charge of it. Thanks, Ivan.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my call. And fascinating subject today. I love it. Rush, real quick. I mean, if we were in charge and being a conservative, I mean, my heart's desire, I think all our hearts' desire is to take out the Democrats. And I think we would do it a little differently. We would do it through policy. And, you know, Rush, I'm 54, and in my lifetime, I don't think I've ever seen -- correct me if I'm wrong -- a Republican president that had had the control Obama has had from '08 to '10. And, you know, I think at the end, the people are gonna decide which party is gonna prevail --

RUSH: Well, some might say that George W. Bush had it for a while, but of course he's a different temperament. But, you know, your first point is really important, it's really valid. If the situation were reversed, the way we would be attempting to eliminate opposition is in the arena of ideas. We would not be smearing these people. We wouldn't be running campaign ads telling lies about people, accusing them of murder and all these other things. That's not how we would be doing it. But Obama is doing it that, and he's winning doing that. He is winning telling lies about his opposition. He's triumphing big time doing so. It's an important point. I'm glad you made it, and we will be right back.

RUSH: I just played Andrea Mitchell in which she expressed satisfaction that the Republicans are scared, given up, exactly as they should. Here's Brokaw weighing in on that idea.

BROKAW: I think it's an indication. I think it's a telltale sign about where the Republicans are. Four years ago when the president was making that speech, Republicans were meeting at night --

BROKAW: -- trying to decide how they were gonna defeat him when he runs for reelection. They lost that big time. He had a very robust electoral victory and a significant popular vote victory. Now the Republicans are in disarray trying to organize their party so they have a future.

RUSH: They're not even thinking about that yet. The Republican Party is trying to stay out of Obama's crosshairs right now. People who donated to the Republican Party are trying to stay out of Obama's crosshairs right now. There are all kinds of people who think of themselves in the opposition who are trying not to be noticed by Obama right now. There is a profound amount of fear for Obama and what his government could do and might be inclined to do to people to teach them a lesson. So it's low-profile city all the way, and let's just sit back. We can't stop it anyway, so let's hope something comes along outside of anybody's control, some event or series of events that wakes people up and rights the ship. I think that's where people are right now. Not everybody, but a vast majority.

Now, one other thing here about this business of Reagan and transformational and Obama. There's a big distinction here that needs to be made. You have all of these media types marveling here at Obama. I was warning everybody, but they're all sitting there marveling how Obama's replicating and emulating Reagan, changing the trajectory of the country, transforming America, blah, blah, blah. That's not what Reagan did. Reagan mighta changed the trajectory in the sense that he reoriented people's lives to themselves and away from government.

Reagan celebrated the Constitution, the founding, the uniqueness of this country. Reagan respected our democratic system. By transformational applied to Reagan, it means that Reagan was trying to rebuild the country. Reagan was trying to save it. Reagan was attempting to reorient the country toward its founding. That's not what Obama's doing. And yet by giving Obama the imprimatur of Reagan, it's a really dangerous thing to do, because here we have the Republican Party -- well, certain commentators basically awarding Obama with Reaganism and Reagan-type characteristics. And there isn't anything similar.

Reagan did not govern in defiance of the Constitution. Reagan did not govern in defiance of the founding. Reagan was not angry and fed up. Reagan was not about grievance politics. Reagan didn't think that a bunch of people had gotten away with murder in the past and they needed to be gotten even with now. Reagan wasn't about targeting the enemy other than the Soviet Union and other communists. He wasn't about targeting the enemy and wiping them out. You will not find, in eight years of Reagan, anything like what you're reading today about eliminating the Democrats, pulverizing the Democrats, going for the throat, wiping them out. That's not what Reagan was. That's not what Reagan did.

Reagan won in the arena of ideas. Reagan won people's hearts and minds. Obama's not doing that. Obama's not winning with his ideas. Obama's not garnering support for his ideas. This is what frustrates me. Obama is winning purely and simply by lying and demonizing his opposition. Brokaw couldn't be further from the truth here in explaining Obama's victory. (imitating Brokaw) "Oh, yeah, a popular election, he won it big time, very robust electoral victory, significant popular vote."

The Republican base stayed home because they were angry at the Republican Party and at Romney, but people voted against Romney. They were not voting for Obama. This is what everybody misses. Obama had demonized Romney for a full year, and people believed it. They believed that Romney didn't care when a guy's wife died. There has never been a candidate for the White House more charitable, more giving, and more decent. Forget political ideas and concepts, just in terms of humanity, there's never been a better person run for the office than Romney. Maybe some people are close. And to have the American people end up believing that this guy hated dogs, quickly allowed people's wives to die without caring about it and had secret money stashes all over the world, not paying his taxes and so forth. I mean, it was robust, to use Brokaw's language.

It was robust the way Romney was destroyed. That's how Obama wins. And that's what Obama's gonna continue to do, and that's what the media's urging him to do, is the point. Then they come along and say that, "Well, like Reagan, he's transforming America. He's gonna try to fundamentally change the trajectory and so forth." In his dreams Obama will be as successful as Reagan. But one thing Obama couldn't do, he couldn't get close to winning the way Reagan did. He can't get close to emulating Reagan in terms of transforming the country. That's not what Reagan did.

Reagan didn't win by telling lies about his opposition. Reagan didn't win by demonizing everybody. Reagan didn't win by convincing people that the Democrats were big reprobates, you know, human debris and all that. That's all Obama's got. He can't win on the strength of his ideas, and he doesn't run on them. His inaugural address was a bunch of pap and emptiness. It was just more of the same in terms of his lofty plans for a government that was never intended to be, by virtue of the founders of this country. And to attach Reagan to that the way some of these analysts are doing is quite offensive.

"Yeah, well, he seeks fundamental change." He does. But Reagan was a defender of the Constitution, not a destroyer of it. Huge difference. And it is kind of galling. This is why I've been mentioning it, folks. Maybe I haven't been communicating this well enough. Lord knows that's possible. It's just been galling to me to watch the Democrat Party co-opt Ronald Reagan, use him to advance themselves while in the process totally misrepresenting who and what Reagan was and did. And then to have analysts sit by and marvel at it has been a little bit much, tough to take. But it is what's been happening, and continues to.

RUSH: Look, folks, here's another thing. Apparently Brokaw and Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, and all the rest of these media people appreciate sleazy campaigns, which is what Obama's campaign was. It was a campaign full of sleaze, and these guys are out there endorsing it and saying, "We need to up the sleaze! Yes, we need now to pulverize the Republicans. We need to strangle the Republicans. We need to take the Republicans out." They're encouraging Obama to do more of this.

Reagan won two landslides. Obama wins, what, 51% or 53%, by three points, whatever it was? Reagan never had a media in his pocket doing his bidding. Obama couldn't win without them running interference for him. I'm just telling you that it galls me a little bit to see all these Reagan comparisons and have them not be properly analyzed. In his dreams and only in his dreams is Obama Reagan, is the point. There aren't any similarities. And yet you wouldn't know that if you pay attention to the Drive-Bys.

I could care less about Mormonism one way or the other.

I thought I had a RATIONAL hatred for HERESY!

For what you call heresy, in your mind, perhaps, you do.

But I'm not going to claim that people who don't beleive exactly as I do are somehow deserving of contempt.

In my lifetime, the Mormons that I have known, worked with and befriended have been as good a group of people as I've ever encountered -- honest, honorable, hard-working and good-hearted, with what any Christian would call admirable family values.

For your reasons, you chose to spew vile hatred toward them. I will not join in that kind of intolerance.

So that, in your mind, I am probably a heretic, as well. So be it. Rave away. I will ignore your response.

I could care less about Mormonism one way or the other.

That is quite evident.

Posting this stuff will never help you past this demon that lurks inside you.

Maybe not; but it can DEFINITLY help those who have demons of MORMONism inside them!

But I'm not going to claim that people who don't beleive exactly as I do are somehow deserving of contempt.

If you wish to consider that CONTEMPT for a hellish heresy equates to CONTEMPT for those trapped in it; go right ahead.

So that, in your mind, I am probably a heretic, as well.

I've not seen you post anything about you believe of a religious nature.

I'll reserve my scathing judgements until then.

For your reasons, you chose to spew vile hatred toward them.

I DO???

Strange; I thought I was posting Quotes, Scripture and writing from MORMONism itself.

If that is HATRED in your mind; well...

You say you don’t care about mormonism but care about people.
Yet, you say you don’t actually care what mormonism does to people in mormonism.
You care you say about people because religion (whatever that means) hurts people.
You apparently disregard religion then invoke demons that you say you apparently see in people.
So apparently, religion (whatever that means) hurts people but not those in mormonism.
Demons are bad and you say you can see then in people but disregard religion (whatever that means).
I think you are really confused, apparently that is.

I find your post very interesting.
You are basing your knowledge of mormonism apparently on a few nice guys you know.
Those who post quotes directly from mormon teachings, videos, and their books is hatred......what an odd definition of hatred.
If you really feel that what is said about mormonism is incorrect, please post from their own words why what is documented is incorrect.
Ping when you do - k?

Those who post quotes directly from mormon teachings, videos, and their books is hatred......

Like you said, I've known a few "nice guys" who were Mormons. More like a hundred-or-so.

I've been to Mormon church services.

I've read the Book of Mormon.

Nowhere but here on FreeRepublic have I ever encountered "the teachings, videos and their books" that you say are inspiring such hatred.

All of this strikes me as a pathetic exercise in ignorance and intolerance.

Thank you. And good night.

You are mistaken in most of your premises. I find Islam, for example, to be far more objectionable than any other religion -- but I do not make it my lifes work to 'save people from Islam'. Heck, I don't make it my lifes work to 'save people' from anything. People will be damaged by many things during a lifetime. I cannot save them from the pain during, or the pain after. I care about people, though, and in that regard I will share my experience, strength, and hope.

Elsie seems tortured by a previous association with Mormonism. I've been tortured by other things in my past, but I got assistance in those areas. I'm suggesting that he or she get help like I got help.

Ok, so a few hundred.
Would you please provide an example of hatred. I actually know of no one who hates mormons. I know I do not.
I know many mormons, both family and friends.
mormons do not have church services they have ward and temple.
Exposing momronISM is not intolerant nor ignorant it is just exposure.
So again, I will ask. What that has been posted from mormon sources do you find inaccurate, that you feel it necessary to call the posters of mormon information intolerant, ignorant and hate mongers.
Please, correct he inaccuracies.

Ok, so you say you care about people but apparently do not care they may be trapped in islam or mormonism.....
Oookkkkaaaaa
Ok, you say you care about people but apparently do not care about what traps them......but heck you will give them strength and hope - with what?

Ok, so you say you care about people but apparently do not care they may be trapped in islam or mormonism.....

I don't have power over other people, places or things. I have no power over religions. I don't delude myself into thinking I do. The second I think I control some sh*t, I'm cooked.

......but heck you will give them strength and hope - with what?

My experience. Some of us will understand, like my friend Hildy.

I do not post incarcerates about mormonism. Everything I post is sourced.
I have asked you to provide what you think, what people post about mormonism is incorrect, actually I am not surprised you can not.

I am happy you were able to leave, it is very difficult for many to escape.
And you are correct, when people post directly from their own (lds) words, there can not be incarcerates.

But from what I witnessed over the past year here, half of Free Republic. Some FReepers did more to demonize Romney than any combination of Comedy Central Yucks.

Actually, if you review the posts of those Freepers, you'll find that most of them were providing a factual retelling of the History of Romney, including his support of Abortion and the Gay Agenda after he won the primary.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your diatribe against Freepers who were telling the truth.

I thought I had a RATIONAL hatred for HERESY! [Caps in original]

You do realize that Elsie has proven these heresys over and over again using the founding documents of Mormonism and the historical statements of the elders, bishops, and other leaders of the of the Mormon Church.

You also realize, I hope, that God himself hates heresy because it leads those caught up in those heresys to end up in Hell or eternal damnation, right?

You proved nothing, except either your ignorance or lack of concern concerning the souls of those trapped in heresy.

What I do care about, is people. People who are wounded. Wounded by any given religion. I care about them enough to ask them to consider serious counseling. Posting this stuff will never help you past this demon that lurks inside you.

So Elsie does yeoman work exposing the lies of Mormonism, and he has a demon?

He does this by posting their own words, and quotes from their own founding documents, and he has a demon?

Are you for real Lazamataz?

Laz, I'm pretty sure you consider yourself a Christian, right?

But you don't seem concerned that those being led down the false path of Mormonism aren't worshipping the God of the Bible, but a God made up by Joseph Smith?

They're being led down the primrose path to Hell, by a religion more concerned about their works, than salvation provided by Grace and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Your statement that "I could care less about Mormonism one way or the other" is telling.

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