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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg

I assume that you saw that the VA Senate approved, on a 20-19 vote (with one Democrat absent because he went to Obama’s inauguration), a new state senate redistricting map that turns the Democrat gerrymander (under which the GOP barely got a 20-20 tie in 2011 despite winning the statewide state senate vote by 57%-40%) into a Republican gerrymander (where the GOP likely will have at least a 26-14 majority after the 2015 elections), but also creates a sixth black-majority district. The bill moved to the Republican House of Delegates, and if the Delegates go along with it, to Gov. McDonnell’s desk. Most VA Republicans outside the Senate have expressed disappointment with the tactics used (they were necessary because GOP Lt. Gov. Bolling had told the Senate leader that he was opposed to the measure), but I think it will be approved and signed into law. Democrats will challenge it both before the Justice Department (VA is subject to Section 5 preclearance under the VRA, unless SCOTUS declares Section 5 preclearance unconstitutional later this year) and in state court (the VA constitution says that redistricting must take place in years that end in 1, but it doesn’t say that no other redistricting may occur during the decade, and in fact the congressional map wasn’t drawn until 2012 and technical amendments to redistricting plans have been approved in the past), and I won’t hazard a guess as to how it will all turn out. Here’s a good article on the bill: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/va-republicans-move-on-redistricting-draws-criticism/2013/01/22/f7645ee8-64b9-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html

Well, the VA Senate did another interesting thing today. A Senate sub-committee approved a bill to change the allocation of EVs from winner-takes-all to allocation by CD. It will now go to a full committee, and it appears to be on its way to approval by party-line vote (unless Lt. Gov. Bolling, who is considering running for governor as an Independent this year, votes against it). The bill would establish a ME/NE method of allocation, with an interesting twist: instead of giving the extra two EVs to the statewide winner, it would give them to the winner of the most CDs in the state. So had the system been in place in 2012 (when Romney carried 7 CDs and Obama carried 4 (one extremely narrowly)), Romney would have won 9 of VA’s 13 EVs, as opposed to 7 of 13 under a ME/NE system or 0 under winner-takes-all. One thing I hadn’t considered was that ME and NE aren’t subject to Section 5 of the VRA, and that the Justice Department may try to block such a system being adopted in VA. Here’s the story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-lawmakers-move-to-change-states-system-for-apportioning-presidential-electoral-votes/2013/01/23/f254adb8-657c-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html

As I posted on FR a week or so ago (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=56#56, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=65#65 and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2977499/posts?page=74#74), if VA, PA, OH, MI, WI and FL adopt a ME/NE EV apportionment system, the GOP would be in the catbird seat to win the White House in 2016 and beyond. I had not considered an allocation method such as the one in the VA bill, but if all six states were to adopt that method, then Romney would have received 280 EVs in 2012 instead of 268 had the six states used the ME/NE system or 306 with all six using winner takes all. I can’t think of any downside to having all six states allocate EVs in the way that VA is contemplating.


23 posted on 01/23/2013 1:18:16 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; Perdogg
“I can’t think of any downside to having all six states allocate EVs in the way that VA is contemplating.”

Unless you made a mistake with your math (not that I can see one), I completely agree with you. This is an EXCELLENT idea!

p.s. Ken Cuccinelli would make a formidable POTUS candidate. Articulate, well spoken, very bright, comes from a swing state. Me likey.

24 posted on 01/23/2013 3:31:20 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I think proportional distribution was the norm prior to 1960. Not only does it return us to the purpose of the ec, it is a firewall against “spigot cities”. Dem fraud can only steal districts they already control.


26 posted on 01/23/2013 4:01:05 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; PhilCollins; MitchellC; ...

This is AWESOME. I have a Marshal stiffy. (watch “Justified” on FX)

It was long past due for the GOP to grow some nads and do something like this. Bill Bolling is a piece of crap for standing the way. Why don’t you want your own party to have more seat, Billie?

Maybe if it all works out and we keep the Governor’s office (Bolling if you run as an Indie and throw it to the rat I will go out there to VA just put a flaming bag of poo on your doorstep) they can redo the congressional map, improve the 11th which is now unwinnable (or is NOVA so lost we should leave it as is?).

I also LOVE the “twist” they put on the E vote idea. Someone in the VA Senate is using their brain, and nads. I want to know who the mastermind is so we can elect him RNC chair.

Such an encouraging development, I’m almost afraid to believe it and be pleased.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 12:36:19 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; MitchellC

By the way, if VA, PA, OH, MI, WI and FL adopt a modified ME/NE EV allocation system in which the extra two EVs go to the candidate who wins the most CDs in the state, then I strongly would encourage NC (which now has a GOP governor to go with its GOP House and Senate) to adopt such a method as well. In 2012, Romney would have been elected with 277 EVs had all 7 states adopted the modified ME/NE allocation method, and would have received that number even had Obama carried NC (which Romney carried by only 2%).


32 posted on 01/24/2013 6:38:00 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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